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Apr 21, 2008, 03:42 PM
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That's a great ad!
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Apr 21, 2008, 03:55 PM
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Hillary started in Pennsylvania with 16 percentage points ahead of Barack six weeks ago. Her lead has dwindled and for Barack, a loss of 12 points are less is considered a victory. Also campaign disheartening for Hillary is the fact that she could get the populace vote in the State, but probably doesn't pick up many delegates out of a win.
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Apr 21, 2008, 04:17 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
What's fun to watch is Obama supporters unveiling their alternate realities. Seems everyone but the Obama camp is acknowledging his stumbling and fumbling and muddled answers to the "slings and arrows" he's invited on himself. There's certainly been no "grace and intelligence" in how he handles a campaign crisis, unless you call whining after the debate last week over finally facing the tough questions "grace and intelligence." It only gets tougher in office when the real crises come - and whining doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
You've been quite content with these traits in your president for the last 8 years so why is it such a problem when its Obama? (not that I agree with your assessment)
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Apr 22, 2008, 02:15 AM
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I can't wait until the media get hold of McCain and his "issues".
Did you watch Stephanopoulos' Sunday's inteview with McCain ? He was trying to reestablish his liberal cred and asked tough questions of McCain... which McCain hit out of the park. Evita is right in that if Obama can't handle tough questions from relatively friendly interviewers how is he going to handle a face off with the Mahdi-hatter ?
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Apr 22, 2008, 06:04 AM
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 Originally Posted by Skell
You've been quite content with these traits in your president for the last 8 years so why is it such a problem when its Obama? (not that i agree with your assessment)
Skell, actually I've acknowledged many a Bush problem the past few years but what I don't buy is the constant portrayal of him as an idiot because he can't say "nuclear." That's the difference here, nobody is insulting Obama's intelligence. If the guy can't give a consistent, confident answer to the tough questions he's rightfully facing now, how can we trust his character and coolness under fire?
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Apr 22, 2008, 06:21 AM
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Only the very vocal neo-con minority here aren't satisfied with his rebuttals of smear attempts (and frankly you guys never will be, this is your bread and butter), the vast majority are impressed with the way he has handled himself.
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Apr 22, 2008, 06:49 AM
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Hello:
Obama bama bo bama, ramaa dama do dama, Obama presy po presy, PRESIDENT, yeah man.
excon
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Apr 22, 2008, 06:52 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Only the very vocal neo-con minority here aren't satisfied with his rebuttals of smear attempts (and frankly you guys never will be, this is your bread and butter), the vast majority are impressed with the way he has handled himself.
NK, the reason they are impressed is they get a thrill up their leg any time he speaks.
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Apr 22, 2008, 06:55 AM
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He's THAT good!
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Apr 22, 2008, 07:31 AM
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I live in Pa no one ever asked me who I am voting for so I don't know where they get these numbers from. I Voted for Obama this morning! Besides She needs to win By a LARGE margin here to even put a dent in his lead and I don't see that happening.
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Apr 22, 2008, 09:24 AM
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 Originally Posted by spitvenom
I live in Pa no one ever asked me who I am voting for so I don't know where they get these numbers from. I Voted for Obama this morning! Besides She needs to win By a LARGE margin here to even put a dent in his lead and I don't see that happening.
Thank you, spitvenom. I hope there are more who feel like you do.
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Apr 22, 2008, 09:41 AM
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I don't know what large margin means . I think she gets a double digit win today;or close enough to convince her to plod on. I see Obama bowed out of the NC debate. What ? Is he afraid of tough questions from Kaity Couric ?
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Apr 22, 2008, 09:52 AM
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Tom, you need to worry about the upcoming debates when Obama gives McCain and his rhetoric support no place to hide. The Democrats have debated a new record number of time already, I think 20 or 21. How many debates did the Pubs have? McCain should had had more debates Huckabee, but he didn't. The Pubs were so chicken of Ron Paul they didn't want him at the debates as all. According to the talking heads of news commentary, if Hillary gets a 13 or more point win in Pennsylvania that's considered a large margin victory for her.
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Apr 22, 2008, 10:12 AM
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The talking heads are Obama cheerleaders. You see how they rallied to his defense when he was asked some challenging questions by Charles Gibson ? Everyone concentrates on his exchange about Bill Ayers but fails to mention his bumbling answers about Capital Gains taxes. It did not matter to him that his hero JFK reduced Cap gains taxes for the stimulous effect ;or that Bill Clinton's cap gain reduction led to a balanced budget. To Obama it was a matter of fairness. I don't care if it's good for the economy . It doesn't fit in with my socialist indoctrination.
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Apr 22, 2008, 10:24 AM
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Hello wingers:
It's clear, the only reason you're on Obama's case, is cause you know he can beat McCain, whereas you don't think Hillary can.
Why don't you be upfront about it? Something you righty's just can't do, huh?
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Apr 22, 2008, 10:28 AM
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Tom- Are you kidding me? ABC has become the Hillary network and Fox with addition of Karl Roves is Pub at least seventy percent of the time along with most talk radio. I'm not going to champion Bush economics despite JFK's reduction in Cap Gain tax. The dynamics changed when Reagan and Herbert Walker put large corps in the driver's seat. I'm done with the Clinton's, but to Bill's credit he was running policy for one country, not burdening his nation with nine billion dollars a month in the Iraqi war. McCain's no different. He's closer to Dubya, than X, Y, and Z.
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Apr 22, 2008, 10:39 AM
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In truth I think they will have an easier time with Obama because of 2 factors . 1. he will be the most radical lefty to run ever 2. I think that race would play a part in the decision. I think it is probable that when polled a larger majority of Evita supporters say they would cross over and vote McCain.
I don't like Evita ;but I think she would be a better national security President than Obama. He has also displayed a redistributional doctrinaire economic position on things like taxes.
Your hero JFK reduced cap gains taxes to stimulate the economy . BJ Clinton used Cap gains reductions to balance the budget. Obama wants to rasie them in excess of 28% over issues of "fairness" .
I am looking for the best President . Of the two remaning Dems Obama has proven himself not ready for prime time .
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Apr 22, 2008, 11:23 AM
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Tom- this election is coming on the heals of Dubya's disastrous second term. Barnum and Bailey could throw in a clown and beat the Republicans come November. Let's say, hypothetically the Dems give up a hefty twenty percent swing to McCain after one of the two Dems candidate loses nomination. Did you realize that still wouldn't be enough? Taxation? Somebody is going to be taxed and I don't care what any of the politicians claim to the contrary, Republican or Democrat. We have huge debts and if we can get them paid down in my lifetime, and that also means to stop spending like maniacs (thanks to Dubya the Republican useless war nut and a Democratic Congress), perhaps someday we leave our children the American dream intact. Who knows we might even have some Social Security to retire on. Of course there are more than just taxes to raise revenues, but the current administration hasn't been business savvy on most citizen's behalf.
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Apr 22, 2008, 11:46 AM
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I see no reason to believe the blue State Red State dynamic won't continue this cycle give or take a few swing states. As for tonight ;the big unknown is the Amish vote :)
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Apr 22, 2008, 12:09 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello wingers:
It's clear, the only reason you're on Obama's case, is cause you know he can beat McCain, whereas you don't think Hillary can.
Why don't you be upfront about it? Something you righty's just can't do, huh?
excon
Ex, it's looking more and more like McCain can beat either of them - but if he doesn't I'd rather have "the lesser of two evils" so to speak. I think Obama would be an absolute disaster. Sure, everyone will love us again because the Obamas' self-loathing brand of liberalism will lead him to genuflect to the world.
Where people get this "hope" and optimism from Obama is beyond me. Obama whining about facing tough questions, his elitist, condescending attitude toward "bitter" working Americans and Michelle "first time I've really been proud of my country" Obama's guilt is depressing. Take this from Michelle who says of America, 'life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear.” She speaks of her own "constant sense of guilt... It’s guilt, feeling guilty all the time.”
Hope? Yeah, that's it... how about we just have mass group therapy sessions for all these self-loathing guilt-ridden elitists instead of putting them in charge?
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