[BABRAM]

Tom-

The L.A. piece was an opinion column, not from someone on a campaign staff. But none-the-less to reiterate my opening statement, "let me be the first to say that had this been a well known Republican, every Democrat would had been calling for the culprit's head."

[BABRAM]

latest news...

ferraro is leaving the campaign.

still... is the "guilt trip" of voting for him over her going to have staying power? is the fact that ferraro, a woman of historic prominence, is leaving the scene going to play into clintons favor, instead of against her?

again... while i think shes losing it all... she still in the hunt... so maybe shes smarter than my dumb arse.

Hillary knew the score and didn't want more negative flack costing her. I've lost count of how many people she's either fired or resigned during the campaign. After the South Carolina debacle I'd bet Bill is still sore.

[Skell]

You guys really are sh1tting yourselves at the thought of a black man being president aren't you? You won't admit it but deep down you know its true.

Why do you have a problem with people being inspired by a man? Why do you have such a problem that people are tired of the boring old white guy? I suppose that's because most of you are boring old white guys ;)

[kp2171]

Uhm.

Who ja talking to?

Personally, I think they are all screwups who won't address the real needs of the nation.

[Skell]

uhm.

who ja talking to?

personally, i think they are all screwups who wont address the real needs of the nation.

Not you kp!

[kp2171]

Hillary knew the score and didn't want more negative flack costing her. I've lost count of how many people she's either fired or resigned during the campaign. After the South Carolina debacle I'd bet Bill is still sore.

And yet she is still in it.

For all the seemingly awful campaign gaffs... she's still right there.

Like I said... there have been many, many times when I've thought she was self destructing... when it was all imploding like a black hole, with no way to stop it.

Guess what?

She's still here.

Say all you want about firings and all the noise around her, she's still here and still can win a majority.

So... I'm changing course. I've been telling my wife that her campaign is in shambles and is flailing left and right just to stay above water.

Now I'm not so sure. Maybe she's a helluva lot smarter than I think. Sacrificing ferraro might seen like a blow... but will it draw in enough residual sympathy to stave off obama?

Again... talk momentum all you want... she's still in the game.

[Dark_crow]

You guys really are sh1tting yourselves at the thought of a black man being president arent you? You wont admit it but deep down you know its true.

Why do you have a problem with people being inspired by a man? Why do you have such a problem that people are tired of the boring old white guy? I suppose thats because most of you are boring old white guys ;)

Naw…it has nothing to do with color…it’s about politics.

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Skell-

KP has a good point. The Republicans found out in the nineties that there are no easy victories over the Clinton's. Bill Clinton was known as the "Teflon President" because nothing seemed to stick and Hillary has inherited the mantle. Your right there is a lot of jealousy concerning the success of Barack Obama. Barack is one of the best communicators since Ronald Reagan and that has helped keep the Clinton's at bay thus far.


PS. DC has a cyberspace infection, otherwise harmless.

[Skell]

Skell-

KP has a good point. The Republicans found out in the nineties that there are no easy victories over the Clinton's. Bill Clinton was known as the Teflon President because nothing seemed to stick and Hillary has inherited the mantle. Your right there is a lot of jealousy concerning the success of Barack Obama. Barack is one of the best communicators since Ronald Reagan and that has helped keep the Clinton's at bay thus far.


PS. DC has a cyberspace infection, otherwise harmless.

Good points.

Right now the US needs a good communicator to get out of the ever worsening predicaments Mr Bush has placed you in. And I know it isn't words alone that do this, but words do have more power than these guys would have you believe.

[tomder55]

Here was Andrew Sullivan's case for the Obama Presidency in Atlantic Magazine

What does he offer? First and foremost: his face. Think of it as the most effective potential re-branding of the United States since Reagan. Such a re-branding is not trivial—it's central to an effective war strategy. The war on Islamist terror, after all, is two-pronged: a function of both hard power and soft power. We have seen the potential of hard power in removing the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. We have also seen its inherent weaknesses in Iraq, and its profound limitations in winning a long war against radical Islam. The next president has to create a sophisticated and supple blend of soft and hard power to isolate the enemy, to fight where necessary, but also to create an ideological template that works to the West's advantage over the long haul. There is simply no other candidate with the potential of Obama to do this. Which is where his face comes in.
Consider this hypothetical. It's November 2008. A young Pakistani Muslim is watching television and sees that this man—Barack Hussein Obama—is the new face of America. In one simple image, America's soft power has been ratcheted up not a notch, but a logarithm. A brown-skinned man whose father was an African, who grew up in Indonesia and Hawaii, who attended a majority-Muslim school as a boy, is now the alleged enemy. If you wanted the crudest but most effective weapon against the demonization of America that fuels Islamist ideology, Obama's face gets close. It proves them wrong about what America is in ways no words can.

Goodbye to All That: Why Obama Matters
See?? Some of Obama's biggest supporters think that first and foremost his face is his greatest qualification . He would not be the embodiment of post-racial America. One of his biggest supporters in one of America's most prestigious publications says that the symbolism of the Obama campaign is it's greatest asset .

[NeedKarma]

Here's more fro that article:

But Obama's reach outside his own ranks remains striking. Why? It's a good question: How has a black, urban liberal gained far stronger support among Republicans than the made-over moderate Clinton or the southern charmer Edwards? Perhaps because the Republicans and independents who are open to an Obama candidacy see his primary advantage in prosecuting the war on Islamist terrorism. It isn't about his policies as such; it is about his person. They are prepared to set their own ideological preferences to one side in favor of what Obama offers America in a critical moment in our dealings with the rest of the world. The war today matters enormously. The war of the last generation? Not so much. If you are an American who yearns to finally get beyond the symbolic battles of the Boomer generation and face today's actual problems, Obama may be your man.

But you chose your text and to bold the Hussein and brown skin parts of the text. Very telling.

[tomder55]

Here was the Christmas Eve sermon of Rev Jeramiah Wright ;a key Obama supporter on why his congregation should vote for Obama over Evita :

He began with making a reference to the white Romans crucifying Jesus..

“Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people,” ...“Hillary would never know that.... “Hillary ain't never been called a n*gger. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.”......

“Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain't! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty."

Obama has yet to disavow his relationship or admiration of Rev. Wright.

[tomder55]

NK yes I did ,even your selected quote is about symbolism and not substance.

[NeedKarma]

NK yes I did ,even your selected quote is about symbolism and not substance.

McSame suffers the same fate I guess. Keep attacking Barack, it certainly is your style. It makes to difference to the real voters out there.

[speechlesstx]

here was Andrew Sullivan's case for the Obama Presidency in Atlantic Magazine

You're wasting your breath tom, I've already posted that part of Sullivan's quote and many others. According to many of his supporters his race indeed was a crucial part of the reasoning to elect him until Ferraro opened her mouth and Obama fired back.

[speechlesstx]

You guys really are sh1tting yourselves at the thought of a black man being president arent you? You wont admit it but deep down you know its true.

Why do you have a problem with people being inspired by a man? Why do you have such a problem that people are tired of the boring old white guy? I suppose thats because most of you are boring old white guys ;)

Skell, I honestly have no idea who you're referring to as I have not seen ANYONE on these boards show any concern over a black man being president except for the one who was worried he would be assassinated.

The fact is those of us who AREN'T Obama supporters are not the ones making race an issue, everyone else is. As I've shown and tom has shown Obama supporters have made race an issue. Obama himself has made race an issue. The Clintons have made race an issue. And now we have 2 democrats fighting amongst themselves over who turned this into a racial issue.

It ain't us "boring old white guys" making race an issue, it is those in that progressive bastion of racial harmony, the Democratic Party. Let's give credit where credit is due ;)

[N0help4u]

I think her and many other peoples problem with Obama is he will not say what he really stands for and he has been connected to racism and anti-American things.
I am glad he is defeating Hillary but him AND McCain scare me equally.
From what I heard that she meant by the comment is that his charisma and race IS the only thing people seem to be going by and not his politics.

[NeedKarma]

I think her and many other peoples problem with Obama is he will not say what he really stands for

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Issues

and he has been connected to racism and anti-American things.

I believe all candidates are suffering from that.

I am glad he is defeating Hillary

Obama increases lead in delegate count - CNN.com
"Sen. Barack Obama widened his lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton in the overall delegate count..."

[NeedKarma]

His view on net neutrality which is crucial to the free flow of information:

[N0help4u]

"Sen. Barack Obama widened his lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton in the overall delegate count..."

I loved how now that Hillary is crying about being so behind she now wants the votes that she said she didn't care about. She is crying foul and there are only two choices make them count or redo the whole process and
Obama said no there is a third stick to your word.

:D