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Jun 1, 2023, 02:18 PM
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Aug 13, 2023, 05:07 AM
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DeSantis has a good message if he would use it. He started off touting his accomplishments in Florida and how to exand it nationally. That is a winning message.
Lately he has been lured into a pi$$ing match with Trump .That is exactly the playing field Trump wants the race to be in.It is the same strategy that allowed Trump to pick off one primary opponent after another in 2016.
He also has decided that the culture wars is the hill to defend. But as Bubba used to say; 'it's the economy stupid' . His great success was to defy the idea of perpetual covid lockdowns and to open the state for business. His was a conservative free market message That is where his success in Florida came from.
I'm not saying he's wrong about the cultural issues. Just that those battles will only take him so far.
He has allowed Vivek Ramaswamy to seize the optimistic conservative message . He needs to reclaim it. Ramaswamy has the message . But he can't win. DeSantis can back up the message with proven results. That is how he should restructure his campaign.....by returning to the things he was successful about as Guv.
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Aug 13, 2023, 05:34 AM
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Lately he has been lured into a pi$$ing match with Trump .That is exactly the playing field Trump wants the race to be in.It is the same strategy that allowed Trump to pick off one primary opponent after another in 2016.
He also has decided that the culture wars is the hill to defend. But as Bubba used to say; 'it's the economy stupid' . His great success was to defy the idea of perpetual covid lockdowns and to open the state for business. His was a conservative free market message That is where his success in Florida came from.
I'm not saying he's wrong about the cultural issues. Just that those battles will only take him so far.
Really good post. You can't out-shout Trump. DeSantis needs to go back and study Reagan's 80 campaign.
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Aug 14, 2023, 05:12 AM
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Perhaps Scott and VR can make some headway. DeSantis seems to be a major disappointment.
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Aug 17, 2023, 04:36 AM
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DeSantis is the Scott Walker of this campaign season.
Both successful Guvs who were reelected in their state and appeared to destroy one opponent after another .
Then they forgot what got them there . Whereas they both have/had solid records to campaign on ;they went to Iowa and started to try to appease the right base of the party
Scott Walker’s Hard Right Turn in Iowa May Hurt Him Elsewhere - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
DeSantis Is Trying to Out-Trump Trump. It’s Not Working. (nymag.com)
In both races there is/was a crowded field that Trump dominated .
Both DeSantis and Walker lack the charisma .
The 1st GOP debate ,Walker was mediocre at best . By the 2nd debate he was invisible and crowded out . The moderator pretty much ignored him.
DeSantis has shaken up his campaign a couple times and has had layoffs. This upcoming debate could be his swan song.
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Aug 17, 2023, 05:09 AM
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So how did he fare at the fair ? DeSantis owned the crowd up to the minute that Trump did a flyby .At that point DeSantis lost the crowd. He got heckled by Trump supporters .
Tim Scott owned his time there. He was on message and genuine. When he groomed cattle it looked like he had done it before. (same with flipping pork chops which apparently is a prerequisite to everyone except Trump) He got a personal tour from Sen. Joni Ernst and Rep. Zach Nunn . His campaign PAC has flooded the Iowa airwaves .By now everyone in the state knows him. .His optimism and “grounding in Judeo-Christian principles” was a big plus. Is that enough ?
Vivek is a dynamic and charismatic campaigner. He broke into an Eminem song during a sit-down with Guv Kim Reynolds and appeared to want to dive into the crowd that had come to the stage. He went to 'happy hour ' at “Jalapeņo Pete’s” and connected with those gathered . He was quick on his feet. When asked by the press who would be the likely Dem if Clueless Joe dropped out ;he quickly replied "another puppet " He held an impromptu town forum answering questions with confidence.
Instead of bashing Trump (which would've been a losing strategy ; he praised Trump while saying he’d “go further” than Trump in fighting “the Swamp.”
Trump was the big winner with his flyby and quick appearance .He drew the largest crowds .
None of the other candidates are worth discussing .
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Aug 21, 2023, 04:02 AM
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The 1st debate is Wednesday. Trump will not attend ( a not so bold prediction since Trump has already pretty much confirmed it ) . This will set the stage for a gang pile on of DeSantis. DeSantis has everything to lose. He is the top dog among challengers to Trump .Trump knows he is the biggest threat to his nomination. Just like in 2016 ;he will pick them off one at a time and the lesser candidates will get an assist.
DeSantis has already shaken up his campaign a couple of times . His latest new campaign manager ,James Uthmeier, sent out the memo that this is a 2 man race. Viewers at home will see the fighter who volunteered to serve our country and deployed to Iraq after 9/11, the father who wants to restore America's promise to future generations for his children and theirs, and the champion of freedom who stood up time and again as governor to defeat the left,"
DeSantis campaign lays out debate strategy to donors and supporters | CNN Politics
In other words he plans to ignore the spitballs from the cheap seats . He wants to appear to be above the fray......... a good strategy if it works ;but he should keep one eye on Vivek .
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Aug 21, 2023, 04:52 AM
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I don't know that Trump has a good option. If he does the debate, he's a terrible debater and can't expect much positive from being in it, but by missing it he makes it possible for a Scott or a VR to look like a winner in his absence. DeSantis has the hard job. I would hope he would listen to Uthmeier's comments above and emphasize his many accomplishments rather than pot-shotting Trump and the others. He should make every effort to look presidential. It might very well be that the country is weary of the constant sniping of the current political scene and would find the presentation of a positive, realistic vision (think Reagan in 80) to be refreshing.
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Aug 31, 2023, 07:22 PM
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Aug 31, 2023, 07:54 PM
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Not so fast. "But the DeSantis team has said for almost a year that Thomas' PAC was using his name and likeness without his permission and could be considered a 'scam.'"
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Apr 29, 2024, 03:03 AM
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Trump and DeSantis met and smoked a peace pipe. They hate each other . But the enemy of my enemy ;and they need each other . Trump needs DeSantis' fund raising . DeSantis needs Trump's base in 4 years .
Trump supporters generally like DeSantis and consider him the heir apparent . To them it was always 'wait your turn'.
I don't think DeSantis will be chosen to run for Veep . He'd do better on the outside and not handcuffed with Trump associations .
Trump meets privately with former GOP rival Ron DeSantis (nbcnews.com)
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May 24, 2024, 03:26 AM
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Nikki has joined the team . Basically she said there is no choice. Trump isn't great . Clueless Joe has been a disaster . Speaker Ron Johnson is on board . The never Trumpers are losing influence.
Yesterday Trump waded into the heart of Dem territory and shined in the format he does best in; the political rally. He was in the South Bronx . All Out Crazy ; Guv Hockel all said this is Dem territory ;keep out
But where All Out Crazy holds town halls in mostly empty auditoriums ; Trump packed apx 30,000 people at Crotona Park . Very few people attended the counter protest that Dem leaders and internet influencers called for .
While the crowd was not quite as diverse as the South Bronx as a whole, it included large numbers of Black and Hispanic voters; Spanish was heard throughout the crowd.
Trump holds a rally in the South Bronx as he tries to woo his hometown – WSB-TV Channel 2 - Atlanta (wsbtv.com)
Contrast Trump's showing in the Bronx with the no shows that greeted Clueless Joe in Atlanta last week .
Biden mocked for apparent small showing of supporters in Dem city: 'Nobody cared' (nypost.com)
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May 24, 2024, 08:28 AM
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“MASSIVE crowd of almost 4 people line the streets as Biden’s motorcade passes through in Atlanta,” another critical tweet read.
Great observation.
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