[talaniman]

Got anything more recent and maybe without extrapolating?

[paraclete]

I give you the facts Tal, you can check them for yourself

[talaniman]

I was referring to CDAD's link.

[cdad]

Here is another that supports it and is only 1 year old.

How Many Times A Day Are Guns Used In Self Defense? | Extrano's Alley, a gun blog

[cdad]

Here is the Cato institute talking about how guns can prevent crime.

How Guns Stop Crimes | Cato Institute

[Tuttyd]

'If this represents what you call a "few" then can I get a "few" dollars from you?'

An academic paper based on a telephone survey of 4,970 people, based on a recount of events in the previous 12 months??

I think there is a fair bit of room for doubt there.

[paraclete]

Come on tutt you know about statistics, that is a statistically significant sample in a small population, and with the brilliant mathemeticians they have over there they can extropolate "whatever" from it, Now what we don't know is what questions were asked but we can be sure of the outcome they were looking for. I wonder what the confidence interval was and was it NRA sponsored?

[talaniman]

Breaking new, Bonehead gets her done.

House Passes 'Clean' Debt Limit Bill After Republicans Capitulate

Republicans had threatened to at least try to attach some other measure to the hike, but capitulated Tuesday after they were unable to agree on specific demands. Having weighed proposals last week to link the debt ceiling rise to repeal of Obamacare's risk corridors provision or approval of the Keystone XL pipeline, House GOP leaders were prepared on Monday to tie the increase to restoring recent cuts of military retirement benefits.
But by Tuesday morning, even that plan lacked enough Republican support, and Boehner acknowledged to reporters that it had been difficult getting his members to coalesce around a plan.

That's one way to get a clean bill.

[paraclete]

you mean you actually got a bill with no staples, a win for democracy there

[tomder55]

He's a pu$$y sell out . His OWN rule was no debt ceiling deal without offsetting cuts . The whole Repubic leadership needs to be voted out .

[talaniman]

Cutting government spending without raising revenues (closing loopholes?) is unfair, unequal, and unbalanced. Especially given house republicans could not agree on a clear strategy.

[tomder55]

and having endless increases in spending ,financed by debt is irresponsible . and why is cutting spending "unfair " when the government budget is bloated ;and can easily be trimmed without causing hardship ? The problem here is that the goverment ,and both political parties are so wedded into being a massive out of control leviathan that it cannot conceive another way .

[talaniman]

That's an extremely simplistic view considering the cost of everything is rising, and the wages are stagnant, while profits soar at record levels. And the rivers and streams get more polluted everyday. Soaring rhetoric, or fighting to the death to shrink government doesn't address any of the real issues, just makes the problems worse.

[speechlesstx]

Endless delays of your greatest "achievement" doesn't do much for us, but then fixing things is never you lobs strong suit. You talk a good game and then screw it up completely for everyone.

[paraclete]

so we need a new model for civilization, since this one isn't sustainable. However the medicine is hard to take, rampant individualism must give way. But you don't have to wait long, your stock market will trim your budget for you, when it collapses you will have to change your ways, those bonds the fed is buying will become worthless

[speechlesstx]

Just curious, when is the media going to start identifying Democrats behaving badly as Democrats like they do Republicans - even having been assumed to behave badly?

First Take: Ex-New Orleans mayor Nagin convicted

Nope, no mention of party affiliation on CNN either. But you can be damn sure everyone know Christie, guilty of nothing so far, is a Republican.

[Tuttyd]

Just curious, when is the media going to start identifying Democrats behaving badly as Democrats like they do Republicans - even having been assumed to behave badly?

First Take: Ex-New Orleans mayor Nagin convicted

Nope, no mention of party affiliation on CNN either. But you can be damn sure everyone know Christie, guilty of nothing so far, is a Republican.

I don't know if it is just this forum, but the level of journalism posted here (for the most part anyway) reflects a media that doesn't recognise any civic responsibility.

I guess you are pointing to a type of inevitability. That is, one group will eventually take the upper hand in the propaganda war.

[paraclete]

well speech when the democrats behave as badly as the 'publicans no doubt they will pick up on it, but them dem's haven't tried to shut down the country yet. You know that when the media are agin you, you are on a hiddin to nothing. So rather than shoutin about it, same navel gazzin is called fur. The problem is; you touched peoples money, you touched their livlihood and they don't easily forget, and what is this all about, afterall it is just a structural adjustment in the health insurance industry, and you had better get used to structural adjustments, there are going to be a lot of them. Had a look at some of your long term employment statistics and they don't bode well

[tomder55]

really ? Juan Cofield, president of the New England Area Conference of the NAACP compared a kidnapping and sexual assault by Democrat State Rep. Carlos Henriquez to jay walking . I kid you not . He refused to resign and conducted his work if the state House while in jail. He is also he is son of Sandra Henriquez Assistant Secretary for Public and Indian Housing for the Obama administration. The NAACP chapter itself sent a letter to the lawmakers urging them to abstain from voting on the expulsion.
Here is the full police report of his arrest :

About 4:24AM on Sunday, July 08, 2012, Officer Kamel assigned to D448A unit responded to a radio call from North Eastern Police for a female held against her will at 21 Forsyth St, Boston.
Officer McCarthy who was assigned to the D43PA unit also responded for assistance. Upon arrival Officer Kamel spoke with the victim (Gonzalves) who was being evaluated by EMT Beckett and EMT Anderson in Ambulance A2. Ms. Gonzalves who appeared to be agitated and crying at the time informed Officer Kamel that the suspect (Henriquez) had picked her up at about 2:00am that morning from her mother's home which is located at REDACTED, Arlington MA.
Ms. Gonzalves stated that the suspect (Henriquez) told her that he wanted to talk about their friendship. Ms. Gonzalves also informed Officer Kamel that the suspect (Henriquez) who was operating a grey Zip Car possibly a Toyota had kept Ms. Gonzalves against her will in the Zip Car while driving around in downtown Boston, Starbow Drive and the freeway refusing to stop. Ms. Gonzalves continued and stated that Mr. Henriquez had yelled at her in previous incidences. Ms. Gonzalves further stated that Mr. Henriquez had punched her with a closed fist repeatedly and strangled her while she was in the motor vehicle.
Ms. Gonzalves stated that every time she attempted to jump out of the car the suspect (Henriquez) grabbed her wrists to prevent her from jumping out of the motor vehicle. Ms. Gonzalves also stated that she had to jump but from the moving motor vehicle and ran to a building where she spoke with North Eastern Police Sgt. Boyd locate at about 21 Forsyth St. Soon responding Boston Police Officers did observe scuffs on Ms. Gonzalves right shin and multiple bruises on her arms and wrists. Ms. Gonzalves refused further medical attention at the time. Gonzalves realized that she left her right sandal behind as she jumped out of the MV.
Gonzalves was noticeably upset and shaken up.
Officer McCarthy transported the victim (Gonzalves) to her home located at [redacted] in Somerville, Ma based on her wishes.
About 6:26AM, Officer Kamel did call the victim via district D Phone. Ms. Gonzalves was more open and stated to Officer Kamel that she and the suspect had an intimate relationship about a month ago. Ms. Gonzalves further stated that they were friends at the time that he picked her up. Ms. Gonzalves further stated that she had to go back home because her mother had called her. Ms. Gonzalves further stated that the suspect (Henriquez) got angry with her and told her, "I came here all the way for that?" Ms. Gonzalves further informed Officer Kamel that when she was in his motor vehicle she had repeadely asked him to stop the car but he wouldn't. Ms. Gonzalves also stated that the suspect (Henriquez) took her phone from her and took the sim card and memory card from it. Ms. Gonzalves further stated that when she ran to the building and spoke with North Eastern Police she was under the impression that her phone does not work.
The D102A Officers Griffin and Burwell responded to the suspect's residence and place him under arrest for Kidnapping, two counts of Assault and battery 209A, intimidation of a witness and larceny from a person. Post Miranda warning Officer McCarthy asked Henriquez if he wished to answer any questions or to explain his side of the story and he refused to do so.

Even though this case has been ongoing since July of 2012 .The national media has largely ignored this Democrat and NAACP war on women.

[speechlesstx]

That's because it doesn't fit the agenda. The media and the left don't care about the "core values" they preach. They don't hate racism, intolerance, inequality, etc. - they hate conservatives. Period.