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    excon Posts: 21,482, Reputation: 2992
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    #481

    Apr 10, 2013, 04:52 AM
    Hello again, dad:

    You bring up another issue that I haven't addressed, and that's people OTHER than felons, who should be in the database. It IS an issue, and I don't have an answer. Should your friend be put IN the database? You KNOW that once you're in there, you're NEVER coming out. Should people who got some therapy along the way be put IN the database? What about men who beat their wives? Should POT smokers, who've NEVER been convicted, be IN the database? Should drug addicts? Should alcoholics? What about autistic people? What about STRANGE people (like us)?

    These are PRIVATE matters between people and their caretaker, or family, or doctor... Should we REQUIRE that these people SNITCH?

    I don't have the answer. Until there is, I propose ONLY convicted FELONS be IN the database.

    excon
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    Apr 10, 2013, 05:12 AM
    That ship sailed in California. You go to the hospital for a little depression and they'll come confiscate your guns.
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    #483

    Apr 10, 2013, 05:33 AM
    Hello again, Steve:
    You go to the hospital for a little depression
    I'm skeptical that you get hospitalized for a "little" depression. So, I'm not as quick as you to say that they should KEEP their guns. Frankly, I know NOTHING about depression.

    But, if a ''little'' depression isn't enough for them to take your guns, what physiological malady IS? Or is there ANY?

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    Apr 10, 2013, 07:00 AM
    It happened to Lynette Phillips who spent a whopping two days in a mental hospital, reportedly due to the effects of a medication.

    In an interview as agents inventoried the guns, Lynette Phillips said that while she’d been held involuntarily in a mental hospital in December, the nurse who admitted her had exaggerated the magnitude of her condition.

    Todd Smith, chief executive officer of Aurora Charter Oak Hospital in Covina, where documents provided by Phillips show she was treated, didn’t respond to telephone and e-mail requests for comment on the circumstances of the treatment.

    Phillips said her husband used the guns for recreation. She didn’t blame the attorney general’s agents for taking the guns based on the information they had, she said.

    “I do feel I have every right to purchase a gun,” Phillips said. “I’m not a threat. We’re law-abiding citizens.”

    No one was arrested. Most seized weapons are destroyed, Gregory said.

    “It’s not unusual to not arrest a mental-health person because every county in the state handles those particular cases differently,” Gregory said by e-mail. “Unless there’s an extenuating need to arrest them on the spot, we refer the case” to the local district attorney’s office, she said.
    Two days and marked for life, guns seized?
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    #485

    Apr 10, 2013, 07:03 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Well, if you're looking for me to defend a$$hole cops, you got the wrong guy.

    excon
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    #486

    Apr 10, 2013, 07:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Well, if you're looking for me to defend a$$hole cops, you got the wrong guy.

    excon
    Hey... you know the routine all too well... give the government an inch and they want the next two miles as well.
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    #487

    Apr 10, 2013, 07:49 AM
    You could say that about any American including you and your conservative friends, and the center, and the left.
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    #488

    Apr 10, 2013, 07:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You could say that about any American including you and your conservative friends, and the center, and the left.
    I don't want even want a mile, I'd prefer the government give us back all the miles they've taken from us.
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    #489

    Apr 10, 2013, 09:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't want even want a mile, I'd prefer the government give us back all the miles they've taken from us.
    Starting with what happens at the airport when I take a flight back home to see my mom.
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    #490

    Apr 10, 2013, 10:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't want even want a mile, I'd prefer the government give us back all the miles they've taken from us.
    How far back do we go for that?
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    #491

    Apr 10, 2013, 10:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    How far back do we go for that?
    At least pre-Obama. Shocking, I know.
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    Apr 10, 2013, 10:22 AM
    That's what I thought, even though this predates Obama by decades.
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    #493

    Apr 10, 2013, 01:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, dad:

    You bring up another issue that I haven't addressed, and that's people OTHER than felons, who should be in the database. What about men who beat their wives?


    I don't have the answer. Until there is, I propose ONLY convicted FELONS be IN the database.

    excon
    Im going to try to address the domestic violence one. If there is a restraining order against the person for domestic violence and a judge so orders then as of current law - They are on the list until the restraining order expires. If they have been convicted of domestic violence then as of current law they are on the list.

    The difference being that those with just a restraining order will be asked to forfeit their guns (the police will hold them for a fee) or sell them off etc. They will be on the no buy list until such time as the restraining order expires.

    A conviction is in a completely different area. That would include a trail etc and possible jail time as well.
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    #494

    Apr 11, 2013, 03:23 AM
    Hello again right wingers:

    Al Qaeda Video: American Muslims Should Buy Guns, Start Shooting People. Let me see. You're in bed with CRIMINALS and AL QAEDA. Doesn't sound like the right wing I know. The NRA has got you all tied up in knots...

    excon
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    #495

    Apr 11, 2013, 04:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again right wingers:

    Al Qaeda Video: American Muslims Should Buy Guns, Start Shooting People. Lemme see. You're in bed with CRIMINALS and AL QAEDA. Doesn't sound like the right wing I know. The NRA has got you all tied up in knots...

    excon

    I love how he asks them to buy fully automatic weapons. Can't wait to see how that goes over. Lol
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    #496

    Apr 11, 2013, 04:44 AM
    Obama is an Honoroary member of Al Qaeda. He got that along with his Nobel prize for doing nothing.
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    #497

    Apr 11, 2013, 04:51 AM
    Hello again, smoothy:

    Back to bumper stickers again, huh?

    I NOTICE you DIDN'T disagree with the terrorist. You apparently SUPPORT his right to buy guns. You're apparently FINE with criminals buying guns...

    Dude!

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    #498

    Apr 11, 2013, 05:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Obama is an Honoroary member of Al Qaeda. He got that along with his Nobel prize for doing nothing.
    Sour grapes or is that sour gripes
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    #499

    Apr 11, 2013, 05:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    Back to bumper stickers again, huh?

    I NOTICE you DIDN'T disagree with the terrorist. You apparently SUPPORT his right to buy guns. You're apparently FINE with criminals buying guns...

    Dude!

    excon
    I think Obama should give up his secret service protection since he seems to think the rest of us aren't entitled to our own protection from the criminal element. Or is he just another blowhard libtartd that thinks they are better then the rest of us.
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    Apr 11, 2013, 05:07 AM
    I see a hell fire from a drone in Adam Gadahn's future.

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