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    May 28, 2013, 02:13 PM
    So the White House thought it could get away with selectively releasing emails, eh? Not so fast, Issa has subpoenaed the talking points documents the most transparent administration ever continues to withhold.

    House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has subpoenaed State Department documents related to the Benghazi talking points, according to a letter sent to Secretary of State John Kerry obtained by The Hill.

    In the letter, Issa states that the department's release of 100 emails earlier this month was "incomplete." Issa demands that Kerry produce "relevant documents through subpoena. The enclosed subpoena covers documents and the communications related to talking points prepared for members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and used by Ambassador Susan Rice during her September 16th, 2012, appearances on CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, and CNN."

    Issa said that the documents released on May 20 did not answer "critical" questions posed by the committee as it investigates what happened during the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and the aftermath of that terror attack that killed former U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stephens and three other Americans.

    More than one week after the attack, Rice took to the airwaves to blame the attack on a protest over an anti-Islam video, denying that it had anything to do with terrorism, despite the CIA's belief that the attack was caused by terrorists.

    Issa wants details of emails between key State Department officials, including then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, Deputy Secretary of State William Burns, Deputy Assistant Secretary Philippe Reines and then-State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland, among others.

    The subpoena compels the State Department to produce the documents by June 7.
    Lurch, aka John Kerry, vowed to run “an accountable and open State Department” - let's see how quickly that promise expires.
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    Jun 22, 2013, 04:11 AM
    White House officials refused to comment Friday on a Los Angeles Times report that CIA operatives and U.S. special operations troops have been secretly training Syrian rebels with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons since late last year, saying only that the U.S. had increased its assistance to the rebellion.
    The covert U.S. training at bases in Jordan and Turkey began months before President Obama approved plans to begin directly arming the opposition to Syrian President Bashar Assad, according to U.S. officials and rebel commanders.
    Update: U.S. training Syrian rebels; White House 'stepped up assistance' - latimes.com
    Hmm... late last year.. Would that be about the same time they were covertly supplying the rebel forces with arms from the former Q~Daffy army ? I think so. The report says official training began in November ,2 months after 9-11-12 ,and probably immediately after the US elections. No doubt ,the preparations ,including obtaining the weapons began before the start of the training.
    The two-week courses include training with Russian-designed 14.5-millimeter anti-tank rifles, anti-tank missiles, as well as 23-millimeter anti-aircraft weapons,
    Nice ,just what we want to see... anti-aircraft weapons in the hands of jihadists.
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    Jun 23, 2013, 02:38 PM
    From the NY Slimes dated June 21 .

    Evidence gathered in Syria, along with flight-control data and interviews with militia members, smugglers, rebels, analysts and officials in several countries, offers a profile of a complex and active multinational effort, financed largely by Qatar, to transport arms from Libya to Syria’s opposition fighters. Libya’s own former fighters, who sympathize with Syria’s rebels, have been eager collaborators.
    “It is just the enthusiasm of the Libyan people helping the Syrians,” said Fawzi Bukatef, the former leader of an alliance of Libyan brigades who was recently named ambassador to Uganda, in an interview in Tripoli.

    As the United States and its Western allies move toward providing lethal aid to Syrian rebels, these secretive transfers give insight into an unregistered arms pipeline that is difficult to monitor or control. And while the system appears to succeed in moving arms across multiple borders and to select rebel groups, once inside Syria the flow branches out. Extremist fighters, some of them aligned with Al Qaeda, have the money to buy the newly arrived stock, and many rebels are willing to sell.
    "The right of AQ to keep and bear 51 caliber machine guns and surface to air missiles shall not be infringed".

    Those weapons, which slipped from state custody as Colonel Qaddafi’s people rose against him in 2011, are sent on ships or Qatar Emiri Air Force flights to a network of intelligence agencies and Syrian opposition leaders in Turkey. From there, Syrians distribute the arms according to their own formulas and preferences to particular fighting groups, which in turn issue them to their fighters on the ground, rebels and activists said.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/22/wo...pons.html?_r=0

    Wow the Slimes is beginning to connect the dots !
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    #464

    Aug 2, 2013, 07:02 AM
    Jake Tapper of CNN has been reporting on Benghazi the cover-up . So FINALLY the compliant press is beginning to do their job.
    Tapper has mostly concentrated on the extreme pressure that has been put to bear on the survivors of the attack (including monthly polygraph tests ). More than 30 American ops were working out of the CIA annex . We now know that besides the 4 dead ,there were a number of wounded that have been kept from the American people.

    Tapper also briefly hinted at what to me is the biggest story from the attack. What were we doing in Benghazi ? It should be clear by now that the State Dept "mission" was there for cover for a CIA black -op.
    And what was that op ?

    Damien McElroy of The Telegraph sheds more light.
    The circumstances of the attack are a subject of deep division in the US with some Congressional leaders pressing for a wide-ranging investigation into suspicions that the government has withheld details of its activities in the Libyan city.

    The television network said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels. Sources said that more Americans were hurt in the assault spearheaded by suspected Islamic radicals than had been previously reported. CIA chiefs were actively working to ensure the real nature of its operations in the city did not get out.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-attacked.html

    As you recall ,Evita dismissed questions by Rand PAul about gun running in her testimony to the Senate when she asked :what difference does it make ?
    Perhaps she didn't know what Ambassador Stevens and the CIA annex was doing there. But I kind of doubt it.
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    #465

    Aug 2, 2013, 07:05 AM
    Why do you guys get involved ion other people's politics? It's been going on for decades.
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    Aug 2, 2013, 07:22 AM
    And the CIA agents involved are getting the star treatment.

    Sources now tell CNN dozens of people working for the CIA were on the ground that night, and that the agency is going to great lengths to make sure whatever it was doing, remains a secret.

    CNN has learned the CIA is involved in what one source calls an unprecedented attempt to keep the spy agency's Benghazi secrets from ever leaking out.

    Since January, some CIA operatives involved in the agency’s missions in Libya, have been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations, according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agency’s workings…

    It is being described as pure intimidation, with the threat that any unauthorized CIA employee who leaks information could face the end of his or her career…

    Another [insider] says, “You have no idea the amount of pressure being brought to bear on anyone with knowledge of this operation.”…

    Among the many secrets still yet to be told about the Benghazi mission, is just how many Americans were there the night of the attack.

    A source now tells CNN that number was 35, with as many as seven wounded, some seriously.

    While it is still not known how many of them were CIA, a source tells CNN that 21 Americans were working in the building known as the annex, believed to be run by the agency.
    But it's all just a phony scandal.
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    #467

    Aug 2, 2013, 07:40 AM
    So there are no such things as state secrets? Why are they pursuing Snowden then?
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    Aug 2, 2013, 07:54 AM
    Look, another shiny thing!
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    #469

    Aug 2, 2013, 07:55 AM
    Exactly!
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    Aug 2, 2013, 07:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Why do you guys get involved ion other people's politics? It's been going on for decades.
    It's always about money. Be it oil, cheap labor, or getting a competitive edge on extracting profit. Wars, civil or otherwise is profitable.

    But it's all just a phony scandal.
    All the right wing scandals are phony ones. Trumped up for ideological talking points and hyper partisan spin for fear of a changing world and holding on desperately to power, and influence.

    To be expected from those that see a leaf fluttering from a tree and holler the sky is falling.
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    #471

    Aug 2, 2013, 08:05 AM
    You must have missed the Bush years.
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    Aug 2, 2013, 08:17 AM
    I have thrived and survived every president since Nixon, and the congresses too!! Life goes on despite the noise, and the sky has yet to fall.
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    #473

    Aug 2, 2013, 08:21 AM
    As I recall the lefty's were all "yawn " isn't nothing there """ during Iran Contra.
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    Aug 2, 2013, 08:26 AM
    as I recall the lefty's were all "yawn " isn't nothing there """ during Iran Contra.
    How did that event impact you?
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    Aug 2, 2013, 08:32 AM
    And when 'Bush lied' about Iraq they were all like chillin', dude.
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    Aug 2, 2013, 08:46 AM
    Iran Contra ? I was appalled and upset that my government was giving the thugs in Iran TOW and Stingers that could be used against Americans... It did not bother me so much that we were helping the freedom fighters in Nicaragua except for the fact that it did violate the law at the time. It's a really cynical attitude to brush off these various misdeeds by the government as 'no big thing' . I opposed Nixon for his antics in Watergate... I opposed Reagan's adm handling of Iran Contra. I opposed Clintoon's selling state secrets to the Chinese for campaign cash.
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    Aug 2, 2013, 09:10 AM
    And when 'Bush lied' about Iraq they were all like chillin', dude.
    I remember hearing about a lot of americans deaths in Iraq.
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    Aug 2, 2013, 09:21 AM
    Sarcasm is still totally lost on you.
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    Aug 2, 2013, 09:21 AM
    I guess the death of you fellow citizens is funny to you.
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    Aug 2, 2013, 10:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I guess the death of you fellow citizens is funny to you.
    That would be the Tal, the administration and Hillary "what difference does it make" Clinton who calling the deaths of Americans a "phony" scandal. Try and keep up.

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