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tomder55 · Aug 28, 2018, 09:52 AM

Trump got almost 63 million votes .

A decidedly clear minority. Could that be the problem?

lol it was not the majority but it is a huge stretch to say it was a decidedly clear minority .It was a little over 2% difference ;but in our electoral system it was a landslide .

Yes there are plenty women I could vote for . In fact I wish Condi Rice would throw her hat in the ring.

BTW the suppressed news of the week is the degree that Lanny Davis lied about what Cohen knows .

tomder55 · Aug 28, 2018, 10:19 AM

An FBI Special Agent Jonathan Moffa told Congress in testimony that the bureau has used leaked news stories as justifications to obtain surveillance warrants against American citizens.Moffa told congressional investigators that the FBI and Justice Department have leaked stories to the press ,and then used the reporting in the press to obtain FISA warrants . Rep Mark Meadows tweeted about it :

We've learned NEW information suggesting our suspicions are true: FBI/DOJ have previously leaked info to the press, and then used those same press stories as a separate source to justify FISA's

Unreal. Tomorrow's Bruce Ohr interview is even more critical. Did he ever do this?

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/s...py-warrants%2F

Moffa worked closely on the Evita email investigation with Peter Strzok.Strzok and Moffa both took part in the July 2, 2016 kids gloves interview with Evita about her use of a private email server to exchange classified emails.

jlisenbe · Aug 28, 2018, 02:13 PM

Yes there are plenty women I could vote for . In fact I wish Condi Rice would throw her hat in the ring.

Isn't it amazing? Of the two former female Secretaries of State, Clinton is the one who runs. Bummer.

talaniman · Aug 28, 2018, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

An FBI Special Agent Jonathan Moffa told Congress in testimony that the bureau has used leaked news stories as justifications to obtain surveillance warrants against American citizens.Moffa told congressional investigators that the FBI and Justice Department have leaked stories to the press ,and then used the reporting in the press to obtain FISA warrants . Rep Mark Meadows tweeted about it :

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/s...py-warrants%2F

Moffa worked closely on the Evita email investigation with Peter Strzok.Strzok and Moffa both took part in the July 2, 2016 kids gloves interview with Evita about her use of a private email server to exchange classified emails.

The only thing worse than listening to a lying, cheating dufus, is listening to a lying, cheating dufus sycophant.

jlisenbe · Aug 28, 2018, 04:26 PM

The only thing worse than listening to a lying, cheating dufus, is listening to a lying, cheating dufus sycophant.

Yeah, I don't like listening to Hillary either. (Sorry...couldn't resist.)

tomder55 · Aug 28, 2018, 05:27 PM

lying, cheating dufus sycophant.

yeah but I already told you about Lanny Davis .

Attorney Lanny Davis says he was an anonymous source in a July CNN story that reported his client, Michael Cohen, had privately claimed that President Trump had advance knowledge of the infamous Trump Tower meeting between his son and Russians — contradicting Davis's own words on CNN's air last week. In the story, Cohen was reported to claim he had personally witnessed Donald Trump Jr. informing then-candidate Trump about the June 2016 meeting. Such a claim from Cohen would directly contradict Trump’s statements about his knowledge of the meeting, where Russians were set to offer dirt on Hillary Clinton. CNN’s July 26 story has come under fresh scrutiny in recent days after Davis acknowledged he had served as an anonymous source for multiple news outlets who were seeking to confirm the CNN article in the hours after it published. Davis has backed away from the story in recent days, telling the Washington Post that he is not certain if the claim is accurate, and that he could not independently corroborate it.

"I should have been more clear - including with you - that I could not independently confirm what happened," Davis said, adding: "I regret my error."

"I should have been more clear - including with you - that I could not independently confirm what happened," Davis said, adding: "I regret my error."...…

CNN's story broke exactly one month ago, on July 27 - Davis only began reining it in last week. Why wait that long if it was erroneous? Did Cohen not notice he was being put forward as the guy who might be able to prove Trump's collusion with Russia - a claim that, if true, could end an American presidency?

I have to admit ;this doesn't make sense to me . If he was knowingly lying to CNN then why would he admit it and hand CNN out to dry ? Maybe Cohen punked him . He deserves it . Why would the Clintoon family

consigliere represent Cohen one wonders ? Maybe because he got Cohen to plead guilty to something that isn't a crime ? Hmmm maybe he is colluding with Mueller ?

Cohen paraphrase from a classic scene from 'Godfather II' :

"Oh, Donald Trump, No. I never heard of it. I never heard of nothing like that. I was in the real estate business with his him a long time ago. That's all. The FBI guys promised me a deal. So I made up a lot of stuff about Donald Trump and his kids. Because then, that's what they wanted. But it was all lies. Everything. They said Donald Trump did this, Donald Trump did that. So I said, "Yeah, sure."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FeMvQR-0VA

paraclete · Aug 28, 2018, 09:59 PM

Any new arguments today

talaniman · Aug 29, 2018, 08:38 AM

The Dufus is still wanting to get rid of his attorney general Jeff Sessions because he cannot lawfully control or stop the Mueller investigations as it gets closer to his inner circle. Takes gall and desperation to obstruct justice in public by wanting his AG to do something illegal. I'm no Sessions fan after he gutted the civil right division of the justice department and implemented the inhuman zero tolerance policy and even further back to his senate days, but he is yet another Dufus sycophant that has fallen from favor of the maniacal desperate DUFUS, and gets abused for not doing as the boss says!

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...esponse-2018-8

BREAKING NEWS... Another one bites the dust!

Don McGahn white house counsel is leaving this fall.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1LE1TT

tomder55 · Aug 29, 2018, 09:16 AM

like it is so unusual to have turnover in the White House .

What would be illegal if Sessions or Trump for that matter were to fire Mueller ? Answer ;nothing .

talaniman · Aug 29, 2018, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

like it is so unusual to have turnover in the White House .

What would be illegal if Sessions or Trump for that matter were to fire Mueller ? Answer ;nothing .

If he has intent to stop a lawful investigation it surely is obstruction, as well as dangling pardons, and praising his criminal cohorts to not cooperate with law enforcement. That's what he does in public, and no telling what goes on behind the scene.

Go ahead, fire Mueller, then worry about NY, and Stormy. I mean geez Tom, he wants Google investigated for rigging the search engine against him. He's out of his friggin' mind I tell you, get him out of here and move in Pence so he can do this repub agenda quietly, until we get Biden or Bernie, or both in 2020.

I'm running out of movies and popcorn for crissake!

jlisenbe · Aug 29, 2018, 01:43 PM

And thus we see the problem that the dems have, when there are no other names to mention other than Biden or Bernie Sanders.

Obama put us an additional 10 tril in debt, and Trump shows no signs of balancing a budget, so the day of reckoning is probably fast approaching anyway.

talaniman · Aug 29, 2018, 03:52 PM

I was throwing out names, but I don't know who will emerge in 2020. Maybe The Dufus flips and starts throwing rocks for us!

tomder55 · Aug 29, 2018, 04:15 PM

If he has intent to stop a lawful investigation it surely is obstruction

wrong again . POTUS can legally and constitutionally direct Sessions to fire Mueller any time he wants ;or do it himself. The Constitution in Art 2 clause 1 is unambiguously clear that

"The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."

Under the Constitution, it is beyond the power of Congress to limit or impose conditions on any president’s authority to remove a political appointee within the Justice Department or any other department in the executive branch.

Any idea of "obstruction " would be a political consideration for Congress to determine.

talaniman · Aug 29, 2018, 06:56 PM

Yeah that's what Nixon said and that started a chain of events that bit him in his butt. Hmm Nixon had his buddies behind him too until they stared at the smoking gun... TAPES! Maybe we should stay tuned, because Slick Mitch ain't going to jail for nobody and the senate is quiet even if the House is lining up to kiss butt! Well the Freedom cause part anyway.

What you think repub rats won't jump ship to save their own arses?

jlisenbe · Aug 29, 2018, 07:17 PM

Yeah, but first you need a smoking gun and at present there is not one. No smoke, no gun, no nothing. Just a bunch of sore losers. Now it might come out in the future, but so far, nada.

talaniman · Aug 30, 2018, 05:51 AM

Even if we cannot find collusion with a foreign party yet (That's a big yet), we already have his business practices under scrutiny, and charges may be pending, as his cohort go to jail, and hopefully you were holding your nose still when he give himself such high praise AGAIN for his response to Americans in dire need already, but a disaster after being hit by TWO hurricanes with 3000 dead. I mean you holler about 4 Americans killed in a foreign land, but ignore THOUSANDS that died in our own territory? Oh yeah there has been plenty of smoke around this Dufus's words AND behavior to know there is a fire burning somewhere, just listen to him when his head explodes like a volcano every time someone gets close to him with a bucket of water.

Sooner or later JL you will realize your nose is hurting from always holding it, and you can't breath and instead of blaming the lying, cheating, dufus you voted for, you will only holler Hillary, with a bit of Obama thrown in for variety. I think you would be happier being able to breath through your nose and can close your mouth for a while so The Dufus can't keep shoveling crap down your throat for you to swallow and regurgitate on his command.

But I guess as long as you get your judges and a few bucks you're happy with the way things are going, but I expect more from the country that supposed to be so great. I want more than just the words, but the deeds and actions, and all the action the dufus has shown is selfish and stupid at best, and criminal no doubt, more lies than truth for sure.

You'll see.

tomder55 · Aug 30, 2018, 09:07 AM

the King added in an offended tone, and everybody laughed, 'Let the jury consider their verdict,' the King said, for about the twentieth time that day. 'No, no!' said the Queen. 'Sentence first — verdict afterwards.' 'Stuff and nonsense!' said Alice loudly

jlisenbe · Aug 30, 2018, 09:52 AM

Sooner or later JL you will realize your nose is hurting from always holding it, and you can't breath and instead of blaming the lying, cheating, dufus you voted for, you will only holler Hillary, with a bit of Obama thrown in for variety.

You would sound a lot more genuine if you conceded that the candidate you voted for required just as much nose holding as the one I voted for. This is the posture of liberals, to try and convince everyone else of their moral superiority when in fact they have but little morality. The people who yawned and went back to sleep after Benghazi and the lying that accompanied it for months afterward have no room for claiming the moral high ground. You really should try to clean the dirt from your own shoes before taking care of everyone else's.

Wondergirl · Aug 30, 2018, 10:01 AM

the candidate you voted for required just as much nose holding as the one I voted for.

Unfortunately, Trump offends in some way something or someone every day.

talaniman · Aug 30, 2018, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

the King added in an offended tone, and everybody laughed, 'Let the jury consider their verdict,' the King said, for about the twentieth time that day. 'No, no!' said the Queen. 'Sentence first — verdict afterwards.' 'Stuff and nonsense!' said Alice loudly

Fantasy doesn't apply to the reality of the events. As cohorts of the Dufus are charged and sentenced, Mueller AND others are bring charges, and building cases against The Trump Empire in a court of law. Hey maybe he gets off with a fine or NOTHING, that remains to be seen, maybe nobody else goes to JAIL, but it's hardly nonsense, and wasn't before when he paid fines and was ordered restitution.

Was that stuff and nonsense?

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You would sound a lot more genuine if you conceded that the candidate you voted for required just as much nose holding as the one I voted for. This is the posture of liberals, to try and convince everyone else of their moral superiority when in fact they have but little morality. The people who yawned and went back to sleep after Benghazi and the lying that accompanied it for months afterward have no room for claiming the moral high ground. You really should try to clean the dirt from your own shoes before taking care of everyone else's.

If I had to hold my nose I wouldn't have voted for Hillary. Let's understand though I'm not trying to convince you of anything, that's a waste of time and a lesson I learned many years ago. Case in point, while you are stuck on Benghazi, thousands of Americans have died and thousands more still suffer while the Dufus pats himself on the back and lies about how great he did.

You're entitled to your selective outrage I suppose, and how you keep your shoes. You are not entitled to your own facts however, and your right wing loony conspiracy theories are old and debunked by official investigations. You loonies never concede you're wrong. That's sad, but I have little sympathy for it. Nothing personal just FACTS!