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    #421

    Jun 27, 2013, 08:24 AM
    Hello again,

    Get Issa on the case.. He'll link it to Obama.

    excon
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    #422

    Jun 27, 2013, 08:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Get Issa on the case.. He'll link it to Obama.

    excon
    Actually Obama said we should be able to fire bad teachers, but I don't know how serious he was about that. But shouldn't your pal Waxman get on the case? He does represent part of LA.
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    #423

    Jun 27, 2013, 09:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Actually Obama said we should be able to fire bad teachers, but I don't know how serious he was about that. But shouldn't your pal Waxman get on the case? He does represent part of LA.
    He's beholden to the teacher's unions.
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    #424

    Jun 27, 2013, 11:04 PM
    How do you determine who is a bad teacher, fire bad students
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    #425

    Jun 28, 2013, 04:46 AM
    In many cases it isn't rocket science. Back to the LA school system for a moment . This week they are bragging that their graduation rate in their high schools went up to 66% .
    LAUSD graduation rate increases to 66% - LA Daily News
    That of course means that 34 % of their students failed to graduate . And that result is obtained with enrolled students and doesn't count the ones who have dropped out along the way.

    But that didn't stop them from setting up a pilot program where they siphon state education $$ for the purpose of training students to become community activists in support of Obamacare.
    Los Angeles Schools Train Students To Promote Obamacare - Reason 24/7 : Reason.com
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    #426

    Jun 28, 2013, 05:29 AM
    training students to become community activists in support of Obamacare.
    Well actually the mandate is
    "With coverage starting in 2014,
    Covered California will help individuals compare and choose a
    health plan that works best for their health needs and budget.
    Financial help will be available from the federal government
    to help lower costs for people who qualify on a sliding scale.
    Small businesses will be able to purchase competitively
    priced health plans and offer their employees the ability to
    choose from an array of plans and may qualify for federal tax
    credits. Covered California is an independent part of the state
    government whose job is to make the new market work for
    California's consumers."
    But you can try to spread FUD about it I guess. It's what you do.
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    #427

    Jun 28, 2013, 05:38 AM
    I stand by what I said. No doubt these students will get course credit for this too.
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    #428

    Jun 28, 2013, 05:50 AM
    Nope, they don't. Wrong again.
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    Jun 28, 2013, 06:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I stand by what I said. No doubt these students will get course credit for this too.
    I can't respond to the course credit claim but it wouldn't surprise me. It's not FUD to point out that LAUSD is training kids to be government propagandizers and using school staff to promote a government message when they should be teaching math.

    LAUSD will also use tax-paid staff to promote ObamaCare through phone calls to students’ homes, in-class presentations, and meetings with employees eligible for ObamaCare’s taxpayer-covered healthcare, the grant award says.

    One in three Los Angeles students never graduates high school.

    The district listed adult education students, part-time, and contract employees as its target population. Teens will be trained to be messengers not to those groups, but to their own families, to get more people enrolled in taxpayer-subsidized healthcare.

    If the project is successful, Los Angeles families can expect more use of students to push government-preferred messaging.

    “Teens are part of a ‘pilot’ program to test whether young people can be trained as messengers to deliver outreach and limited education to family and friends in and around their homes,” said Gayle Pollard-Terry, a LAUSD spokesman, in an email. “Teens will be educating adults that they already know (e.g., family or friends) and not other adults.”
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    Jun 28, 2013, 07:19 AM
    You can choose for yourself to be ignorant of the options and opportunities of the new health care law, but don't get mad because they choose not to be. Especially if they have to help older members of their family navigate the system.
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    #431

    Jun 28, 2013, 07:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You can choose for yourself to be ignorant of the options and opportunities of the new health care law, but don't get mad because they choose not to be. Especially if they have to help older members of their family navigate the system.
    Apparently you don't see the irony in complaining about the exploitation of children in one post and supporting it in the next.
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    #432

    Jun 28, 2013, 07:37 AM
    Here, see for yourself:
    http://www.healthexchange.ca.gov/Doc...%205-14-13.pdf

    Where are they exploiting children or getting course credit?
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    #433

    Jun 28, 2013, 08:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Here, see for yourself:
    http://www.healthexchange.ca.gov/Doc...%205-14-13.pdf

    Where are they exploiting children or getting course credit?
    No one has claimed definitively they will get course credit. It's called sarcasm, something you have great difficulty discerning, also the usage of words like "exploitation."

    Children are supposed to go to school for an education, not to learn how to be community organizers to accomplish a political purpose, that is exploitation. And yes, your source confirms that.
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    #434

    Jun 28, 2013, 08:05 AM
    The California Council of Churches and Catholic Charities of California got grants as well. Better start the outrage machine!
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    Jun 28, 2013, 08:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No one has claimed definitively they will get course credit. It's called sarcasm, something you have great difficulty discerning, also the usage of words like "exploitation."

    Children are supposed to go to school for an education, not to learn how to be community organizers to accomplish a political purpose, that is exploitation. And yes, your source confirms that.
    Organizing and voting for a better community is a good thing. Maybe the will have a better school because of it, and not be exploited by a corrupt politician.
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    #436

    Jun 28, 2013, 08:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The California Council of Churches and Catholic Charities of California got grants as well. Better start the outrage machine!
    I have no idea why that should outrage me.
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    #437

    Jun 28, 2013, 08:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Organizing and voting for a better community is a good thing. Maybe the will have a better school because of it, and not be exploited by a corrupt politician.
    Ok then, let's use taxpayer funds for religious schools to teach kids how to spread the gospel, that would make for a better community.
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    #438

    Jun 28, 2013, 09:19 AM
    teach kids how to spread the gospel, that would make for a better community.
    I think we've all noticed that that's not the case.
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    #439

    Jun 28, 2013, 09:29 AM
    They get tax exempt status already, so don't be greedy. Use some of that not for profit hospital money.
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    #440

    Jun 28, 2013, 09:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I think we've all noticed that that's not the case.
    You just never do get the point do you? Always dissing on others is all you do.

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