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    #401

    Feb 24, 2012, 08:20 AM
    The right's view of women is as demeaning as I thought it was.
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    #402

    Feb 24, 2012, 08:49 AM
    And the left's sense of humor is as non-existent as I thought it was.

    P.S. Unless you're gay I'm sure I'm supposed to believe you've never ogled a woman.
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    #403

    Feb 24, 2012, 08:58 AM
    Gay people "ogle" women too. But I'm pretty sure it's not related to political policy.
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    #404

    Feb 24, 2012, 09:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Ok, so girls want love and romance so bad they're too dumb say no. Kind of paints a different picture than that of the "woman power" image we're supposed to have.
    Aren't you reading all the questions that come in to this site from teen girls who are looking for love and romance and end up pregnant with the bio-father having disappeared? Again, what are the parents teaching their daughters--and [added, thanks to Tal] their sons?
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    #405

    Feb 24, 2012, 09:14 AM
    Takes two to tango. They both should be taught better.
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    #406

    Feb 24, 2012, 09:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Aren't you reading all the questions that come in to this site from teen girls who are looking for love and romance and end up pregnant with the bio-father having disappeared? Again, what are the parents teaching their daughters?
    No I'm referring to your words.
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    #407

    Feb 24, 2012, 09:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Gay people "ogle" women too. But I'm pretty sure it's not related to political policy.
    When I admire a pretty woman it has nothing to do with political policy either.
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    #408

    Feb 24, 2012, 09:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    When I admire a pretty woman it has nothing to do with political policy either.
    Rush does have some other great quotes that you likely admire and find funny as well.
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    #409

    Feb 24, 2012, 10:50 AM
    You don't pay attention very well. I said I admire a pretty woman, not everything Rush says.
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    #410

    Feb 24, 2012, 10:56 AM
    Hello:

    I LOVE Rush Limprod. Is that who we're talking about now?

    I'm just saying... We covered the whole gambit, and didn't solve a damn thing. But, it WAS fun.

    Let's do gay's and guns now.

    excon
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    #411

    Feb 24, 2012, 02:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    I LOVE Rush Limprod. Is that who we're talking about now?

    I'm just saying... We covered the whole gambit, and didn't solve a damn thing. But, it WAS fun.

    Let's do gay's and guns now.

    excon

    Did someone mention guns??





    :)
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    #412

    Feb 24, 2012, 02:53 PM
    What do guns have to do with churches?
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    #413

    Feb 24, 2012, 02:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    what do guns have to do with churches?
    Its obvious you have never heard of a shotgun wedding before.
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    #414

    Feb 24, 2012, 03:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    what do guns have to do with churches?
    Hello clete:

    Ask anyone. Our rights were endowed upon us by our creator.. Looks to me, therefore, like our gun rights are God given...

    excon
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    Feb 25, 2012, 03:41 AM
    Yes but until the 20th century... dating back to the Magna Carta , our rights were what the King couldn't do to you . Now apparently our rights have changed to what the benevolent king deems you should get from the government .(even JFK said 'ask not what your country can do for you').

    As you should know ,those are rights that can be easily taken by the king at the king's will ,and also rights granted to you at the expense of someone else since the king's treasury is completely dependent on revenue collect in fees and taxes or other confiscations .
    In the Obama world an administrator (czar ) is given the task to decide what is "the appropriate balance " between an absolute right ,and a welfare plan .

    According to the Senate Budget Committee those freebies in our system under Obama's plans will generate an obligation of $75,000 per person in the country (from the already swollen $44,000per person) . Greece is belly up at $39,000 per person .Spain is on the ropes at $18,000 per person . All these "free "rights are unsustainable .You know it and I know it.
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    #416

    Feb 25, 2012, 04:23 AM
    You guys are going to have to stop whatever it is you are doing and get to work, aren't you? I suggest you start with abstinance, if you get my drift, it will give you more time to worship the holy dollar
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    #417

    Feb 25, 2012, 05:00 AM
    Yeah there's plenty to do like converting that abundance of algae into gasoline.It's time to leave reality and enter Obama's virtual Farmville .
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    #418

    Feb 25, 2012, 05:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yes but until the 20th century....dating back to the Magna Carta , our rights were what the King couldn't do to you . Now apparently our rights have changed to what the benevolent king deems you should get from the government .(even JFK said 'ask not what your country can do for you').

    As you should know ,those are rights that can be easily taken by the king at the king's will ,and also rights granted to you at the expense of someone else since the king's treasury is completely dependent on revenue collect in fees and taxes or other confiscations .
    In the Obama world an administrator (czar ) is given the task to decide what is "the appropriate balance " between an absolute right ,and a welfare plan .

    According to the Senate Budget Committee those freebies in our system under Obama's plans will generate an obligation of $75,000 per person in the country (from the already swollen $44,000per person) . Greece is belly up at $39,000 per person .Spain is on the ropes at $18,000 per person . All these "free "rights are unsustainable .You know it and I know it.
    Hi Tom,

    This is a misunderstanding. There is no balance "between an absolute right and a welfare plan. There are no "free rights". All rights under this heading are classified as rights men OUGHT to have. They are not interpreted as rights in any universal sense.

    Tut
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    #419

    Feb 25, 2012, 05:57 AM
    If that is so then why justify welfare spending in the context of rights ? I keep hearing on this page about 'women's reproductive rights ' which for the purpose of this discussion is that they have access to "free " contraception that trump the right of free exercise of religion.

    Rights that are 'ought ' instead of natural rights are not rights at all in the real world ,but only in the mind of the utopian idealist.
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    #420

    Feb 25, 2012, 06:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I keep hearing on this page about 'women's reproductive rights ' which for the purpose of this discussion is that they have access to "free " contraception that trump the right of free exercise of religion.
    Well a quick bit of googling would have helped: Reproductive rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Reproductive rights rest on the recognition of the basic right of all couples and individuals to decide freely and responsibly the number, spacing and timing of their children and to have the information and means to do so, and the right to attain the highest standard of sexual and reproductive health. They also include the right of all to make decisions concerning reproduction free of discrimination, coercion and violence.
    Hope this helps!

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