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    Aug 23, 2018, 08:22 AM
    I know you're right Clete, and I'm trying to sit back and enjoy the show, but it's FUN blasting on the Dufus at every turn, and his sycophants, and some of my stubborn friends who are still holding their nose as they turn blue around the gills.
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    #382

    Aug 23, 2018, 12:11 PM
    More Breaking News
    The Dufus LIED!

    Trumps accountant and tabloid exec. given immunity in the Cohen case.

    And Manafort tried.

    One juror held out in Manafort convictions
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    #383

    Aug 23, 2018, 04:20 PM
    I think the moron Cohen plead guilty to a crime that he did not commit .
    Alan Dershowitz argues that Trump paying for the women to be silent breaks no campaign finance laws IF he used his own contributions to his campaign. IF Cohen used his money then he was subject to limits to the amt he contributed .Trump had $480,000 retainer with Cohen. So it should've been clear that Cohen used Trump funds for the payout .If he didn't then he is as stupid as he looks . And evidently he is because the 8th count was about excessive campaign contributions .
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    #384

    Aug 23, 2018, 07:56 PM
    His statements when he pleaded implicated The Dufus, NY is looking into The Trump Foundation for money laundering, boy you NY'ers can certainly cause a stir when you get out of the city. Just in... The Dufus said on Faux News that if he is impeached, the US will sink into the sea, and disappear, or some nonsense to that effect.

    You think Vlad can save his bacon, or Pence can save America?
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    Aug 24, 2018, 06:31 AM
    His statement is meaningless. All the left's talk of "unindicted co-conspirator" is a whole bunch of nonsense not based on law. If the prosecutor named him then it would have meaning . Cohen's ramblings have no weight ;and his case was so unimportant to Mueller that he handed it off.

    Yes I know the locals here are looking into the Trump Foundation . If there is corruption and law violations there ;they are still pikers to the Clintoon Foundation; which a number of local law enforcement agencies have deliberately over-looked .

    Cohen has delusions of grandeur .He believes he is some important cog in the Trump world . Trump retains many lawyers from prestigious agencies . Cohen was his grunt on the ground gofer . Trump gave him a retainers to do things like settle with porn stars . Do you really think he would've been entrusted with anything substantial ?
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    #386

    Aug 24, 2018, 08:22 AM
    What is a campaign fund violation ? Is it paying your own campaign to give hush money to porn stars ? Is it $2 million in violations that the emperor only paid a fine for ? Is it Evita not reporting an expenditure that she hid using 2 intermediaries (Fusion GPS and Perkins Coie ) to pay a foreign national to work with other foreign nationals to gather information that would help her in the campaign ?
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    Aug 24, 2018, 10:04 AM
    A campaign fund violation is an expenditure that is falsely labeled to hide another purpose. The Dufus and his sycophants have more than a few and how serious they are is a matter of investigation. Is Clintons piggy backing off the never trumpers efforts the same? Go ahead, investigate that also, but the priority should be the antics of the sitting exec in the White House. Or expand the Justice departments budget and resources since they are under a court ordered search for kids and reuniting them with their families.

    I can wait for whatever the long time Dufus organization accountant has to say since he has been granted immunity. Congressional repubs have returned from vacation and their focus is on the Clinton emails... AGAIN. Maybe we should investigate them and drilldown on what they have to show from holding the congress since 2010. We can include the emails and Benghazi investigations in that too.
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    #388

    Aug 24, 2018, 03:22 PM
    Meanwhile Lanny Davis ,a Clintonista is Cohen's att. And Mueller who asked Trump for a job When Trump won ;and had a big dispute with Trump 2011 where he ended up terminating his membership to one of Trump's courses is the lead prosecutor .
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    Aug 24, 2018, 03:33 PM
    So how is any of that relevant, or is it even accurate? Was Mueller really asking for a job?
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    Aug 24, 2018, 03:51 PM
    you're kidding right ? Mueller interviewed for Director of FBI before he was appointed by Rosenstein . That is a fact .His name was removed from consideration after the appointment .

    I got more questions .How did the Ruskies get Donna Brazille to give Evita debate questions in advance of a debate she moderated ? How did the Ruskies get Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to rig the primaries in favor of Evita over Bernie ?
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    Aug 24, 2018, 04:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    you're kidding right ? Mueller interviewed for Director of FBI before he was appointed by Rosenstein . That is a fact .His name was removed from consideration after the appointment .

    I got more questions .How did the Ruskies get Donna Brazille to give Evita debate questions in advance of a debate she moderated ? How did the Ruskies get Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to rig the primaries in favor of Evita over Bernie ?
    I don't question that fact, but you assert Mueller was seeking out The Dufus for a job. I don't get that, and the rest of your questions you have asked before and the loonies were pushing, though I have no doubt of the political chicanery that goes on from both parties as repubs are experts at purging and suppressing minority and democratic votes while they both funnel dark money to where they want it.

    A pox on both parties and an end to taxation through misrepresentation. Purge SCOTUS or impose term limits.
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    #392

    Aug 24, 2018, 06:43 PM
    Where is Mueller’s re­fer­ral of a case against Evita for Amer­ica? Fed­eral law requires cam­paigns to dis­close the re­cip­i­ent and pur­pose of any pay­ments. The Clin­ton cam­paign paid Fu­sion GPS to com­pile a dossier against Mr. Trump.

    Lanny Davis registered as foreign agent to represent Ukrainian businessman and organized crime associate Dmytro Firtash, who also dealt with Paul Manafort and is fighting extradition to US.
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    #393

    Aug 24, 2018, 06:52 PM
    And you know the Clinton campaign didn't file the proper documents how?
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    #394

    Aug 24, 2018, 07:17 PM
    We are calling Dump Mr. are we? What has he done to earn your respect? Consorted with porn stars and call girls? Cheated with failed businesses? Drained the swamp? Started trade wars? Built a wall? Dismantled Obamacare? Won a war?
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    #395

    Aug 24, 2018, 07:32 PM
    This is indisputable fact .Their disclosure reports do not list any payments from Evita's campaign or the D.N.C. to Fusion GPS. They do list a total of $12.4 million in payments to Perkins Coie, but that’ was for legal consulting.
    The money was not for “legal consulting,” and to describe it as having been paid to Perkins Coie for legal services is intentionally misleading. The firm was a 3rd party conduit between Fusion and the campaign and DNC. In other words, money that went to the firm was ultimately paid to Fusion. And Fusion provided no legal services to anyone.

    https://campaignlegal.org/sites/defa...28Filed%29.pdf

    Perkins Coie's partner Graham M. Wilson all but admits this deception claiming that the "research work" was to support the provision of legal services. That claim is patently false . Their funneling money to Fusion GPS had nothing to do with legal services .It had everything to do with funding Steele's work compiling the dossier.
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    #396

    Aug 25, 2018, 06:16 AM
    Looks like you will have to wait for a determination before you can lock her up, as meanwhile The Dufus is getting even more pressure, which sets up the question who gets blasted first and best. Campaign finances are a broken tail light unless it's full scale money laundering or fraud, tax evasion and we have 3 different jurisdictions looking into The Dufus stuff.

    I doubt you get that far with an FEC finding, but you never know, since the right wing will never stop it's decades old witch hunt. Of course no telling what Mueller has up his sleeve because unlike The Dufus he keeps his mouth shut until he files charges.
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    #397

    Aug 25, 2018, 07:19 AM
    I doubt you get that far with an FEC finding
    correct . Normally a fine and pay backs except when there is a politically motive to use the issue to squeeze someone into turning state's witness. Then suddenly that person is facing jail time unless there is cooperation .Who's offices got raided ? Not Perkins Coie ..not Fusion GPS ...not the DNC or Evita's offices . So far Flynn ,Manafort ,and Cohen all got the full FBI with their guns drawn treatment .Meanwhile the FBI never asked Evita's aides for their computers . Meanwhile the FBI offered to destroy the evidence in Evita's aides computers . FBI agreed to destroy laptops of Clinton aides with immunity deal, lawmaker says | Fox News

    If you don't see a serious double standard here then your vision is worse than Stevie Wonder's . Flynn charged with lying when even the FBI interrogator said he didn't . But have they gone after McCabe after the DOJ inspector General said he lied at least 4 times ? Was Comey charged after his blatant falsehood when he told Congress he had not written his conclusion about Evita before she was interviewed ? Clapper and Brennan both lied under oath and haven't been charged . Cheryl Mills and Huma Weiner both lied when they said they did not know Evita had a private server . Comey said he predicated the Evita investigation on the assumption that she would win the Presidency . He changed his draft from 'gross negligence ' when it was pointed out to him that is a violation of the law . Comey confessed that he passed on confidential FBI notes to a friend for the purpose of leaking them . The DOJ is working under the assumption that there is no att/client privilege when dealing with Cohen . But Mills was given complete protection to a point that she was allowed to sit in on the Evita interview and certainly knew about Evita's attempts to cover up her private server being used as a conduit to pass on classified docs .
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    #398

    Aug 25, 2018, 09:30 AM
    You have alleged a lot and maybe when Sessions and the DOJ/FBI finish with The Dufus Gang, they can get the Clintons right and proper.
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    Aug 25, 2018, 10:19 AM
    It's all politics. Clinton supporters want Trump fried, but are fine with Clinton riding off into the sunset. Trump supporters want Clinton brought to justice. The truth is, we had a pretty poor choice of candidates this last time around. I preferred holding my nose and voting for Trump to handing the country over to a dishonest, inept individual who would never have been nominated had she not been female.
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    Aug 25, 2018, 01:22 PM
    allegations ????????????????????????????

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB52NEPJxUs



    https://www.realclearinvestigations...._examined.html

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