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    #381

    Oct 16, 2013, 05:41 PM
    Its like those background checks, if you lie on the applications they can screw you.
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    #382

    Oct 16, 2013, 09:21 PM
    I'm wondering, has health care been made more affordable after the 16 day empasse or was it just an exercise in futility?
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    #383

    Oct 17, 2013, 03:33 AM
    Now that the fiscal cliff has been punted ,we can begin to watch the sticker shock. Let's start with emperor supporter Ezra Klein's buyer's remorse .
    Five thoughts on the Obamacare disaster
    James Taranto likens Klein's observation to Elisabeth Kübler Ross's five stages of grief.
    Best of the Web Today: As Good as It Gets? - WSJ.com
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    #384

    Oct 17, 2013, 07:20 AM
    When your house needs a new roof, do you

    A) Fix it.

    B) Burn it down.

    C) Move

    I pick A, what do you pick?
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    #385

    Oct 17, 2013, 07:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    When your house needs a new roof, do you

    A) Fix it.

    B) Burn it down.

    C) Move

    I pick A, what do you pick?
    Do you...

    A) Throw a bunch of shingles out and hope they stick?

    B) Insist that everyone buy a roof just like yours whether they need it or not?

    C) Hire a qualified contractor to make it just like new?
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    #386

    Oct 17, 2013, 07:42 AM
    Funny how you answer a question with a question.
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    #387

    Oct 17, 2013, 07:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Funny how you answer a question with a question.
    My questions were better.
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    #388

    Oct 17, 2013, 08:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    When your house needs a new roof, do you

    A) Fix it.

    B) Burn it down.

    C) Move

    I pick A, what do you pick?
    I could've asked the same question when Obamacare was being forced upon us .What your side did was patch a small leak with a sledge hammer.
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    #389

    Oct 17, 2013, 08:20 AM
    Obama Care doesn't go far enough. I say cut out the middle man altogether. The rest is just half steppin'.
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    #390

    Oct 17, 2013, 08:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I could've asked the same question when Obamacare was being forced upon us
    Forced? How long was it discussed and how many revisions did it go through?
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    #391

    Oct 17, 2013, 08:44 AM
    Hello again, Carol:
    Forced?
    Oh, they have LOTS of words for the Constitution in action... Lemme see... "Ramming" (down our throats), is one. "Takeover" is another..

    How many do you know?

    excon
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    #392

    Oct 17, 2013, 08:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Forced? How long was it discussed and how many revisions did it go through?
    And they still can't get it right.

    Obamacare has been a different story. Universal health care was promised, not to address a high-profile headline crisis, but because President Obama's twenty-something speechwriter wanted an applause line for a campaign speech.

    The poorly drafted bill was passed almost entirely on party lines by exceedingly narrow margins -- and in the face of majority negative public opinion.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/micha...3607/page/full
    We didn't ask for it, we didn't want it and now we're stuck with poorly planned, abysmally executed, unequally enforced disaster and we're supposed to cross our fingers and hope for the best. That's a stupid way to run the country, and if it had been Republicans doing it you would never hear the endless drumbeat to get rid of it.
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    #393

    Oct 17, 2013, 08:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And they still can't get it right.
    It's a work in progress. That was said from the get-go.

    How many years does it take a wife to get her husband house trained?
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    #394

    Oct 17, 2013, 08:57 AM
    How many years does it take a wife to get her husband house trained?
    Zero. Get me sandwich.
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    #395

    Oct 17, 2013, 08:58 AM
    Naw we would have helped you fix it, like Part D. We have always worked with and helped republican presidents, sure we holler and called names and impeached a crook or two, but we never let the loonys shut things down, and make things worse.

    Affordable health care and mandates was a conservative idea, so try and keep up and reject the loony notion that it was dreamed up by Obama. Its been in the works for decades now and rising costs was the reason then, as it is now.

    You loony's and your "hidden" racism is DISGUSTING!

    PS, YOU is the collective YOU, not the personal one, so don't get your underwear all jammed up in your crack.
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    #396

    Oct 17, 2013, 09:24 AM
    Naw we would have helped you fix it, like Part D.
    As long as that progressive socialist agenda gets advanced, you are sure to be helpful... and you is the collective you.
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    #397

    Oct 17, 2013, 09:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    As long as that progressive socialist agenda gets advanced, you are sure to be helpful
    You mean that Republican socialist agenda.
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    #398

    Oct 17, 2013, 09:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You mean that Republican socialist agenda.
    They are part of the problem too. They have the spine of cooked angel hair .
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    #399

    Oct 17, 2013, 09:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    They are part of the problem too. They have the spine of cooked angel hair .
    In an ideal world, what would you want?
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    #400

    Oct 17, 2013, 09:59 AM
    I don't have any presumptions about an ideal world or a desire to achieve one . Our system was designed for an imperfect world governed by imperfect humans.
    what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.
    (Madison Federalist #51)

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