[J_9]

You say you aren't stupid, but you can't follow the rules your parents have set up for you, you can't get along with your family, and you think you can support yourself at the tender age of 16.

You may not be stupid, but you are ignorant. Ignorant in the ways of the world. At your age you can't comprehend the seriousness of how the choices you make today will affect your future.

[Thinkaboutit]

I may be ignorant in the ways of the world but if I stay here its not going to work. I think it's the best thing to do ill still be attending a college and working at the same time so its not as if I want be qualified at the end of the two years. As for supporting me self I can stay with me uncle I will pay my board and for all my own things.

What difference does it make weather I do it at the end of this year or after I graduate I don't see how it will make a difference. I can't always worry about what ifs! So what if I stay and me dad doesn't want me here anymore then what? What if I stay and things just get worse and worse. I know the choices I make come with consequences and ill have to deal with them but if I weigh it up in me head I only see negative staying here. This is what I wanted to do when I graduated so I'm just fast forwarding a little.

I do follow the rules me dad has for me, it's a bit hard to always get it right when I don't really know what they are. Me dad is very different to me mum things I was aloud to do at me mums are not OK here. I do honestly try to get along with me dad, I don't really know him that well he left when I was little and never really had much to do with me. He only let me come here because he felt bad. It's awkward see it from me point of view, being made to go live with someone you don't really know with a whole new family, I don't know how to fit. It's hard and awkward and I really don't feel comfortable being in the house.

[catonsville]

I think we are wasting our breathe on this, this one just wants to keep kicking the can down the road. Typical teenager.

[talaniman]

You can attend college without graduating high school in Australia?

[J_9]

I give up. Nothing we say Is going to make a difference. This child is going to do what she wants whenever she wants to. No amount of common sense is going to help her.

Good odd luck to you Think. You have no idea how hard life is going to be for you.

[Thinkaboutit]

You can attend college without graduating high school in Australia?

Well it's not really college it's called tafe. It's vocational education and training provider. And yes as long as you have passed year 10 you can. You can also use tafe as a pathway to university. I don't really know how to explain what it is, as a student if your under the age of 17 where I live you can quit high school as long as you are enrolled in Tafe. I've been to Tafe a few time with me class I find it easier to learn as there is less distraction, the people that attend tafe want to study not teenagers messing around. I tried to convince me dad to let me study me year 10 high school certificate at tafe but he didn't like me having no supervisation. Meh anyway.

[Thinkaboutit]

I give up. Nothing we say Is going to make a difference. This child is going to do what she wants whenever she wants to. No amount of common sense is going to help her.

Good odd luck to you Think. You have no idea how hard life is going to be for you.

I just don't get it I don't see why it's such a bad idea. Really would life be any easier if I waited until I graduated. I don't understand. It doesn't matter anyway I have a whole year left before I can make that decision. Maybe I'm just not mature enough to see it in the way you all see it. I really don't know just thought it might be a solution to me relationship with me dad and getting away from it.

[joypulv]

All of this to my mind boils down to how horrible home life is. And we just can't really know. It really sounds like just a lot of fighting, something most of us and most every teen goes through.
You have not exactly been a model kid, skipping school a lot and so on.
You let our answers whoosh right over your head half the time, such as asking about staying elsewhere. We say no you can't live with your aunt without your aunt asking your dad and your dad saying yes, and you say "Oh I just want a break, not live with her," and the arguing goes on and on. Now it's your uncle! SO GO AS SOON AS YOU ARE LEGALLY ABLE!!!

I DO feel for you, with both parents having new partners. I do, I do. But we don't see them, we aren't there, we can't get the picture, and you don't paint a good picture. My mother was a holy terror and I was miserable, and I was the best dooby you ever saw, got all As, did chores, never did a single thing wrong. I held my breath and WAITED until after I finished high school.

[Alty]

Joy, remember that this kid has a bad past, read all her threads. She was involved in drugs, and hanging out with bad people. Her mother couldn't handle it anymore so she was sent to her dads. Since then she's snuck out to hang with older kids, and really hasn't shown that she's put her past ways behind her. She continues to make bad decisions, and her dad did his best, but gave up. She just wouldn't listen!

Personally I feel for her parents. It seems that neither one of them can control this child, set her on the right path. I was hoping that our words would help, and they seemed to for a while, but every time we gave advice she posted a new thread with yet another issue she was handling wrong.

I get that she's 15, and 15 year olds don't have the sense God gave a goat. I have a 16 year old, he thinks he knows everything, but he listens because I won't give up on him. Then again, he was raised in a home that doesn't allow the types of things the OP (original poster) is doing. It would have been nipped in the butt right away, whatever had to be done would have been done, even if it meant sending him to rehab or something else. Thankfully he's not in that position, and never will be.

I knew everything back when I was 16 too. I did! Or so I thought until I actually started to grow a brain and realize that I didn't know anything at that age. But try telling that to a teenager. They won't listen, because they think they know it all. Then again, even when I knew everything I was still respectful to my parents. This child isn't.

Fact is, we tried to help this kid. We've all given the best advice we can. Sadly she doesn't really listen to anyone, not her parents, not us. She knows everything, just like every other 15 year old out there. Maybe she needs to experience things, find out for herself that the things she thinks she knows, she really doesn't have a clue about. Maybe she needs to learn the hard way, by living with the poor choices she's making.

Sometimes you have to make mistakes so you can learn and move on. I just hope those mistakes won't end up costing her everything.

Personally I'd really like to talk to the dad, give him support, give him words of encouragement. He's the one that needs help dealing with this very troubled teen. I feel for him.

[Thinkaboutit]

Joy, remember that this kid has a bad past, read all her threads. She was involved in drugs, and hanging out with bad people. Her mother couldn't handle it anymore so she was sent to her dads. Since then she's snuck out to hang with older kids, and really hasn't shown that she's put her past ways behind her. She continues to make bad decisions, and her dad did his best, but gave up. She just wouldn't listen!

Personally I feel for her parents. It seems that neither one of them can control this child, set her on the right path. I was hoping that our words would help, and they seemed to for a while, but every time we gave advice she posted a new thread with yet another issue she was handling wrong.

I get that she's 15, and 15 year olds don't have the sense God gave a goat. I have a 16 year old, he thinks he knows everything, but he listens because I won't give up on him. Then again, he was raised in a home that doesn't allow the types of things the OP (original poster) is doing. It would have been nipped in the butt right away, whatever had to be done would have been done, even if it meant sending him to rehab or something else. Thankfully he's not in that position, and never will be.

I knew everything back when I was 16 too. I did! Or so I thought until I actually started to grow a brain and realize that I didn't know anything at that age. But try telling that to a teenager. They won't listen, because they think they know it all. Then again, even when I knew everything I was still respectful to my parents. This child isn't.

Fact is, we tried to help this kid. We've all given the best advice we can. Sadly she doesn't really listen to anyone, not her parents, not us. She knows everything, just like every other 15 year old out there. Maybe she needs to experience things, find out for herself that the things she thinks she knows, she really doesn't have a clue about. Maybe she needs to learn the hard way, by living with the poor choices she's making.

Sometimes you have to make mistakes so you can learn and move on. I just hope those mistakes won't end up costing her everything.

Personally I'd really like to talk to the dad, give him support, give him words of encouragement. He's the one that needs help dealing with this very troubled teen. I feel for him.

Omg, I wasn't even going to reply to this just makes me look even more argumentative but I can't help it, I was not doing drugs and hanging out with bad people when I lived with me mum. I hung out with me friends that I grew up with we were a little nerdy, I'd never done anything that would get me in trouble we were well behaved. I came to me dads because I don't like me mums partner he is a pig and I can't stand him, me mum loves him cant see why but anyway I have a problem with me mouth can't seem to keep it shut when it comes stuff like that. The only reason I was sent to me dads was because I don't like him and if I'm honest I did kind of start to get a little mouthy with me mum but not drugs.

Yes when I came to me dads I messed up I did take drugs and hang out with the wrong people I did sneak out drink stupid stuff. Once I told me dad about me problems and got some help I snuck out once and hurt me self and I haven't done it again lesson learned. I don't understand how I haven't been listening to me dad I had a boyfriend he said no so I broke it off, he wants me to do stuff around his house I try me best babysit when ever they need to go out. He wanted me to do counselling I did what he wanted me to. I'm not saying that I did a perfect job at listening to him but I tried. I don't understand how I'm not respectful to me parents.

Really I don't listen to anyone here I kind of thought I did that, if it wasn't for the advice I got here I don't think I would have even told me da. All the advice I've been given I'm pretty sure I've followed most of it. If I thought I knew everything I wouldn't have come to this web site to begin with. And me poor choices I will live with them and I've learnt from them and I guess I have heaps more to make.

Im 15 qt the moment I still have a year left of school to finish, bring me grades up, work me job and do what I need to at home in a more better way to get it done and follow through. So if I'm on the wrong path there to bad. Oh and learn not to argue with me da stand there and listen.

[joypulv]

I'm going to repeat how frustrating you are.
The title of your post is MOVING OUT. You say "I just can't stand to be in this house anymore."
As soon as you are told that you can't just go without your aunt specifically wanting you to live there, and your dad's permission, you claimed that's not what you want - you just want a place to go for a break.

You change, you backtrack, you argue, you are all over the place.
PLEASE get your thoughts together. We are all volunteers here.
15 is very young. But it's old enough to think before you write.