[speechlesstx]

Hello again, tom:
Your use of the word "approve" further signifies the disconnect. I don't "approve" of art. I appreciate it, or not. I didn't appreciate the cross in the bucket of pee - NOT because it was a cross in a bucket of pee, but because it was bad art.

excon

And we did not object to his right to his bad art, the objection was to using taxpayer dollars to fund it.

[talaniman]

You mean like taxpayer dollars funding private religious schools that teach kids that the Earth is 6,000 years old?

[speechlesstx]

You mean like taxpayer dollars funding private religious schools that teach kids that the Earth is 6,000 years old?

Not exactly no, because in fact the parent chooses to send their child there, as opposed to having no choice and forcing them to go to public schools for a good liberal indoctrination and undermining of parental rights and values. The thing is, you have no problem imposing beliefs and values on others with not only taxpayer dollars, but with our private dollars as well (the contraception mandate) - as long as it fits your world view.

[NeedKarma]

liberal indoctrination

Can you define the tenets of this "indoctrination"? I'd be best to show policies that all schools are told to follow versus individual aberrations.

[speechlesstx]

Can you define the tenets of this "indoctrination"? I'd be best to show policies that all schools are told to follow versus individual aberrations.

Been there, done that. I hate repeating myself.

[paraclete]

You mean like taxpayer dollars funding private religious schools that teach kids that the Earth is 6,000 years old?

Would you believe it if they said the history of man is 6,000 years old

[tomder55]

I went to Catholic school... First thing ,the school was funded by student tuition. . Second... we were not taught the earth was 6,000 years old. If you wanted a simple label for the Catholic position on the subject then the best one is probably 'theistic evolutionism'... that there is no inherent conflict between the scientific theories and creationism .

[paraclete]

I went to Catholic school ...First thing ,the school was funded by student tuition. .Second... we were not taught the earth was 6,000 years old. If you wanted a simple label for the Catholic position on the subject then the best one is probably 'theistic evolutionism' ....that there is no inherent conflict between the scientific theories and creationism .

Yes Tom I remember the teaching you can believe whatever you want to provided you believe that God intervened to place a soul within man, I think it's called theistic convenientism but I also believe there is no conflict between scientific theories and creationism, science attempts to explain what they see within the available imperfect knowledge of the day

[tomder55]

yes Tom I remember the teaching you can believe whatever you want to provided you believe that God intervened to place a soul within man, I think it's called theistic convenientism

Catholic teachings are consistent with the bible. Maybe you can show me where there is a date for the earths creation in Genesis. It's people who try to calculate back that are in fact doing their own brand of 'convenientism' (whatever that means). People who try to make a biblical case for the earth being apx 6,000 years old are fools who invite the ridicule they receive .

[paraclete]

Catholic teachings are consistent with the bible. Maybe you can show me where there is a date for the earths creation in Genesis. It's people who try to calculate back that are in fact doing their own brand of 'convenientism' (whatever that means). People who try to make a biblical case for the earth being apx 6,000 years old are fools who invite the ridicule they receive .

Have you read the book of Genesis? Actually read it? It offers you an explanation for all those scientific discoveries that predate the history of man. The Earth was formless and void. Now scientists have discovered certain periods which may well be exactly when that refers to and more than one. People have counted back from the present era, and what have they discovered there is no history before about 6,000 years ago and very little indication man as we know him existed earlier than that. Everything earlier than that is conjecture and myth and we like to believe these myths because it is convenient. There is no early discovery of modern creatures excepting in the seas, there is just conjecture that various animals evolved and that sea creatures took legs and walked, show me a sea creature with legs. A period of glacialisation ended about ten thousand years ago, prior to that we have only myth to suggest what may have existed. The Bible is entirely silent regarding this because it isn't attempting to explain that