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    Jan 21, 2013, 09:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lynn25244 View Post
    No not fake. I saw the real documents legal and binding. I saw the documents with my own eyes.
    seal on document marriage license and all.
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    Jan 21, 2013, 09:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lynn25244 View Post
    seal on document marriage license and all.
    The baby's Mother took proof of pregnancy and showed it to the people there while applying for license.
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    Jan 22, 2013, 04:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by lynn25244 View Post
    The babys Mother took proof of pregnancy and showed it to the people there while applying for license.
    I can't find anything in SC law that would allow a marriage or even a marriage license for someone under 16. Even with proof of pregnancy.

    What is your concern in this? If the state of SC issued the certificate it could be invalid and the marriage annulled.

    Without use seeing the documents or talking to the JP who performed the marriage, we can't tell you why it happened. We can only review the law and report what the law says.
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    Jan 22, 2013, 08:48 AM
    I can not see where the marriage can be valid, if there was any false documents given.
    Also it may appear that the clerk was in error of giving the license.
    * including the entire issue of minor leaving state to be married, which is another problem.

    My feelings is that this marriage could be challenged on several grounds, Also the sex and pregnancy happened prior to marriage, so the act of statutory rape still happened before there was any marriage protection.

    So the marriage gives the man no protection, and I suspect the marriage could be challenged if someone wanted to
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    Jan 22, 2013, 10:03 AM
    Clearly this marriage was to protect the 23 yr old for a statutory rape charge. Whether it worked depends on whether someone, including a prosecutor wants to press charges.
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    Jan 22, 2013, 11:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Alty;
    To marry in South Carolina, here is the law:

    If you are under 18, you will need a certified copy of your birth certificate and a notarized statement of parental consent.

    The minimum age for a female is 15 and it is 16 for a male.

    ...
    "SECTION 20-1-100 Minimum ages for valid marriage.

    Any person under the age of sixteen is not capable of entering into a valid marriage, and all marriages hereinafter entered into by such persons are void ab initio. A common-law marriage hereinafter entered into by a person under the age of sixteen is void ab initio. "

    CHAPTER 1 - MARRIAGE - South Carolina Statutes
    It appears that the marriage in SC was void.

    As Fr_Chuck points out, even if the marriage were effective, if the conception happened before marriage, the man is probably guilty of statutory rape. One would have to know which state it was in which the sex took place to be sure.
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    Jan 22, 2013, 12:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lynn25244 View Post
    No not fake. I saw the real documents legal and binding. I saw the documents with my own eyes.
    Well, if she's truly under 16, the documents are not valid and binding. They might exist and say that, but if someone improperly married an underage girl, the marriage is not valid. The man is guilty of statutory rape. If you know these people, please report this to the authorities - this girl needs to get into foster care and away from the crazy adults in her life.
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    Jan 22, 2013, 02:10 PM
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    Marriage License in South Carolina
    ID Requirement:

    Drivers License and Social Security number.

    Residency Requirement:
    Do not have to be a resident of South Carolina.

    If previously married:
    No proof of divorce is required.

    Application Requirement:
    Both parties to a marriage should appear in person at the office of a South Carolina County Probate Judge and file a written application. This application asks for the full name, social security number, age, and place of residence of both the bride and the groom. It is a sworn statement that must be signed by both the bride and the groom and notarized in the office of the Probate Judge.

    Fees:
    The fee for a South Carolina marriage license application varies depending on county. Some locales charge $50 cash for all county residents, $75 cash for state residents, and $100 cash or money order for out-of-state residents and all others.

    Waiting Period:
    There is a 24-hour waiting period after the application is filed before the license can be picked up and the marriage can take place. If you want to get married on a weekend, make sure you apply for a marriage license by Thursday so you can pick up your license by Friday.

    Blood Tests:
    No blood test or physical exam is required.

    Under 18:
    If you are under the age of 18, parental consent can be granted for boys who are at least 16 years old and for girls who are at least 14 years old. All minor applicants must file an original birth certificate or a certified copy of their birth certificate, which becomes a part of their permanent application record. The parent or legal guardian of a minor applicant must appear at the same time as the minor to present identification and sign a form consenting to the marriage.

    If you are 18 years old or older, you do not need parental consent. But you must provide proof of your age (or simply identification if you're over age 25) by presenting one of the following:

    Valid driver's license;

    Original birth certificate or a certified copy of your birth certificate;

    Valid South Carolina identification card issued by the South Carolina Department of Public Safety;

    Current military identification card;

    Current passport.


    Name Change:
    Getting a marriage license with your new name on it does not mean your name has automatically changed. If you need to change your last name, you can use an online marriage name change kit.

    Proxy Marriages:
    No. Both parties must be present.

    Common Law Marriage:
    Yes, and both parties must be at least 16 years of age to marry.

    Cousin Marriage:
    Yes. First cousin.

    Same Sex Marriage:
    No.

    Officiants:
    Ministers of the gospel who are authorized to administer oaths in this state may perform marriages. Ministers must complete the marriage license and give one copy to the parties and the other two must be returned to the county judge of probate who issued it within 15 days after the marriage. Members of the Notary Public can also perform marriages in South Carolina.

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    Jan 22, 2013, 02:13 PM
    Where did you get that from? It clearly goes against SC law. It looks like it is from a site that offers a compilation of state laws, but they don't guarantee accuracy. And as several of us have noted the law is VERY clear.
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    Jan 22, 2013, 02:21 PM
    That site has old information on it. The laws have been updated.

    South Carolina Marriage Consent Laws
    •With Parental Consent: 16 and 17 year-olds can marry in South Carolina only with the consent of a parent.

    South Carolina Marriage


    •If you are under the age of 18, parental consent can be granted for boys and girls who are at least 16 years old. All minor applicants must file an original birth certificate or a certified copy of their birth certificate, which becomes a part of their permanent application record. The parent or legal guardian of a minor applicant must appear at the same time as the minor to present identification and sign a form consenting to the marriage.

    South Carolina SC - How to Apply for a Marriage License
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    Jan 22, 2013, 02:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    Where did you get that from? It clearly goes against SC law. It looks like it is from a site that offers a compilation of state laws, but they don't guarantee accuracy. And as several of us have noted the law is VERY clear.
    They got it from here:

    South Carolina Marriage License Laws > SC Wedding Officiants
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    Jan 22, 2013, 02:33 PM
    I would suggest sending them a link to to the law we have cited to the e-mail address they list.
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    Jan 22, 2013, 02:53 PM
    Im sorry I forgot to say that I found this site I don't know where they saw or town or anything like that, but yes I do agree it is sad. Why do girls lie about age though and boy gets the bad end.
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    Jan 22, 2013, 03:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lynn25244 View Post
    Im sorry I forgot to say that I found this site I dont know where they saw or town or anything like that, but yes I do agree it is sad. Why do girls lie about age though and boy gets the bad end.
    Yes, the boy does get the short end of the stick, but I do have to say, I have yet to see a 14 year old that could pass for an 18 year old. So either way, the 23 year old should have known better.

    No matter what, the girl is 14, she can't marry even with parental consent, and the fact that she's pregnant with this mans child, is statutory rape. Also, the marriage isn't a legal marriage.

    How are you involved in this? Are you the 14 year old girl, the 23 year old boy, or just a friend or relative?
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    Jan 22, 2013, 05:57 PM
    So you think this 23 yr old didn't realize the 14 yr old was underage? I find it hard to buy that. Frankly no one should be having sex with someone they don't know that well.

    But we are still curious where you fit into this.

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