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    Aug 10, 2012, 04:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    what is this smear heard round the world? is that the american world? or the Earth world? Not a breath of it has reached here you are safe.
    Exactly! Not a word right next door here in Canada.
    This is rather like their USA-only "World Series" LOL.
    Hyperbole - the cornerstone of far-right politicking.
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    Aug 10, 2012, 05:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Exactly! Not a word right next door here in Canada.
    This is rather like their USA-only "World Series" LOL.
    Hyperbole - the cornerstone of far-right politicking.
    It's just a phrase. Geez you people are hyper-sensitive. I guess that's normal when you're that insecure.
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    Aug 10, 2012, 05:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I guess that's normal when you're that insecure.
    From: Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response
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    Aug 10, 2012, 06:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's just a phrase. Geez you people are hyper-sensitive. I guess that's normal when you're that insecure.
    What is there to be insecure about? We could worry you might export your economy I suppose
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    Aug 10, 2012, 06:57 AM
    The irony just cracks me up, implying I'm a troll has the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response Mr. troll expert.

    By the way, you took it out of context.

    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
    The discussion went off-topic here and here and you joined in here. I'm sure ex and Clete will be glad to know you've just called them trolls.
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    Aug 10, 2012, 06:58 AM
    I guess you're just a little insecure.
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    Aug 10, 2012, 07:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    what is this smear heard round the world? is that the american world? or the Earth world? Not a breath of it has reached here you are safe. Right now the only thing being heard around the world is the olympics, which I notice not a breath of it has reached this site. the Chinese team too much for you?
    Start your own thread.

    P.S. Misty May and Kerry did a fine job with the Chinese and the medal count looks quite favorable at the moment. (Sorry NK, I couldn't scroll down to get Canada in the screen shot)
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    Aug 10, 2012, 07:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I guess you're just a little insecure.
    I'm right, no need to be insecure.
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    #29

    Aug 10, 2012, 07:21 AM
    Just because WG and I and Clete call you out on the misinformation that you post in no reason to attack us.
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    Aug 10, 2012, 07:42 AM
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    Really ex? That's pathetic. I think you're just panicking that your guy might actually lose.
    Hello again, Steve:

    In the world of negative campaigning, I don't find one side more honorable than the other... But, when YOUR side points fingers and snivels about a negative ad used AGAINST you, I don't have a lot of sympathy.

    Here's what I think.. Obama WAS vulnerable. ANY of the candidates who decided NOT to run could have beaten him. You know the list. And, I even thought Romney could have beaten him - not because Romney is better - but because Obama was SOOOO vulnerable...

    But, Romney blew it. I don't know if it's because he won't release his taxes, or because he isn't interested in Ann's horse, or because he went negative. I really don't know, and I don't care... For WHATEVER reason, Obama is comfortably ahead, and unless something untoward happens, he's going to win.

    AND, Hillary is going to win in '16.

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    Aug 10, 2012, 08:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Just because WG and I and Clete call you out on the misinformation that you post in no reason to attack us.
    I refer you again to your own definition.
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    #32

    Aug 10, 2012, 08:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    In the world of negative campaigning, I don't find one side more honorable than the other... But, when YOUR side points fingers and snivels about a negative ad used AGAINST you, I don't have a lot of sympathy.

    Here's what I think.. Obama WAS vulnerable. ANY of the candidates who decided NOT to run could have beaten him. You know the list. And, I even thought Romney could have beaten him - not because Romney is better - but because Obama was SOOOO vulnerable...

    But, Romney blew it. I dunno if it's because he won't release his taxes, or because he isn't interested in Ann's horse, or because he went negative. I really don't know, and I don't care... For WHATEVER reason, Obama is comfortably ahead, and unless something untoward happens, he's gonna win.

    AND, Hillary is gonna win in '16.

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    So blaming Romney for Soptic's wife's death, even though he lied about her insurance and she died six years later is reasonable to you?
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    #33

    Aug 10, 2012, 08:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    So blaming Romney for Soptic's wife's death, even though he lied about her insurance and she died six years later is reasonable to you?
    Hello again, Steve:

    Maybe you didn't understand what I just said... You want me to judge which NEGATIVE ad is worse, and I'm not going to. I'm NOT a relativist..

    But, as long as you're asking... How long are you going to continue to DENY that Romney LIED when he took "you didn't build that" out of context? Apparently, you STILL think it's the truth, because it's STILL part of your signature. So, as long as ONE of us is living in a dream world, we're not going to solve the LYING problem.

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    Aug 10, 2012, 08:56 AM
    I knew if I compromised and took the first quote out, dumped the middle name and left Obama's words verbatim to speak for themselves you'd still be pi$$ed off about the wrong thing.
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    Aug 10, 2012, 09:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I knew if I compromised and took the first quote out, dumped the middle name and left Obama's words verbatim to speak for themselves you'd still be pi$$ed off about the wrong thing.
    Hello again, Steve:

    I didn't care about the first quote. Although the use of his middle name was troubling, it didn't take away from the lie. I think we've been round and round about this, but I ain't busy..

    Nobody is saying Obama didn't utter those words. He did. They WERE, however, taken out of context to mean what you NOW proclaim them to mean, and that's NOT what the words meant when they were spoken...

    THAT'S the lie. It isn't the wrong thing.

    So, I say again.. As long as you think YOUR guy doesn't lie and mine does, we ain't going to get anywhere.

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    #36

    Aug 10, 2012, 09:35 AM
    So in other words when Obama says what he says he didn't really mean that. "somebody else made that happen" means something entirely different than "somebody else made that happen." Sounds exactly like Bill Burton's excuse for his own sleazy ad.

    Obama made a stupid statement and now he has to live with it. Romney did not kill that woman, should he have to live with that?
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    #37

    Aug 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    So in other words when Obama says what he says he didn't really mean that. "somebody else made that happen" means something entirely different than "somebody else made that happen."
    Hello again, Steve:

    I don't know how many different ways I can say this, but when you take words OUT of the context in which they were spoken you can MAKE them mean something else...

    What is it about that, that you DO NOT get?? This isn't Martian we're speaking..

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    #38

    Aug 10, 2012, 10:12 AM
    Mitt Romney quotes:

    "Corporations are people, my friend"

    "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."

    "I'm not concerned about the very poor."

    "I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." —Mitt Romney, speaking in 2011 to unemployed people in Florida. Romney's net worth is over $200 million.

    "[My wife] drives a couple of Cadillacs."


    "We should double Guantanamo!"

    "I'm happy to learn that after I speak you're going to hear from Ann Coulter. That's a good thing. I think it's important to get the views of moderates." --right before Coulter called John Edwards a "faggot"

    The ultimate flip-flopper: Still Voting For 'Mitt Romney'? - YouTube
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    #39

    Aug 10, 2012, 10:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I dunno how many different ways I can say this, but when you take words OUT of the context in which they were spoken you can MAKE them mean something else...

    What is it about that, that you DO NOT get??? This isn't Martian we're speaking..

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    Really? I did not know that. Just never mind, you obviously think it's OK to accuse a man of causing death but using a guy's own words against him is taboo. The quote stays.
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    Aug 10, 2012, 12:50 PM
    “ If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.” -Barack Obama, 2012

    “ If you've got a business... you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.” -Barack Obama, 2012

    At least quote it accurately.

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