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    whatnow_sa Posts: 20, Reputation: 3
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    #21

    Feb 21, 2012, 06:17 PM
    Point is, YOUR report wasn't altered. Right? Right...
    & the odometer matches...
    Carfax wasn't accurate.. case closed... :/
    Logically, it all adds up.. there's just nothing she can do..
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    Fr_Chuck Posts: 81,301, Reputation: 7692
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    #22

    Feb 21, 2012, 06:23 PM
    You made several errors, first never sell a call without a written bill of sale, always make it show as is. It is their duty to research it first.

    If they try to sue, just take your report to court to prove your point, Don't even discuss it with them further.
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    #23

    Feb 21, 2012, 06:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by whatnow_sa View Post
    .. case closed... :. there's just nothing she can do..
    Wrong again. She may not be able to win a suit, but the case is not yet closed because she CAN file suit.
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    mydallmo Posts: 11, Reputation: 1
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    #24

    Feb 21, 2012, 06:37 PM
    ... I absolutely did not alter the vehicle history report... I wouldn't even know how to do that. Mileage on odometer was 82,000. Got the written bill of sale form off the VA DMV website which if I recall, does not state 'as-is' but doesn't state otherwise either. As a female, I explained to her that the car is being sold 'as-is' because I didn't know much about cars.
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    excon Posts: 21,482, Reputation: 2992
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    #25

    Feb 21, 2012, 06:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by whatnow_sa View Post
    if they essentially bought the car "as is," you are under no legal obligation to refund their money
    Hello w:

    What you say is true, UNLESS there was fraud alleged, and that's exactly what the buyer is saying...

    excon
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    mydallmo Posts: 11, Reputation: 1
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    #26

    Feb 21, 2012, 07:39 PM
    ... thank you for all your replies... I have just been so stressed about this and didn't know what to do. Thank you all.
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    #27

    Feb 23, 2012, 12:45 PM
    I found out that she had not gotten the car registered in her name yet, it was still in my name as of today. I had to go to DMV and get it unregistered out of my name. She has been telling me that she wants to work with me and if she doesn't hear back from me later today, she has other recourse. She said she has talked with private investigator, an attorney, and other government agencies and she will take action. She said that although I may not have gotten the odometer "rolled back", it's a fraud to SELL a car that has had it's odometer "rolled back". I kept reassuring her that I did not know but she won't accept that. I only sold it because I needed the money. If her report is correct, then I really feel bad that this has happened. But if this is the case, I feel like I've been victimized too by the guy who sold me the car. I did not profit from this car (I actually lost money selling it) and feel as if I should just give her back some of her money because I really feel bad that this has happened to the both of us. I don't know what to do. Plus, I just want this all to go away.
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    excon Posts: 21,482, Reputation: 2992
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    #28

    Feb 23, 2012, 12:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mydallmo View Post
    I don't know what to do. Plus, I just want this all to go away.
    Hello m:

    Life would be great without all its bumps and bruises... But...

    You got good advice... Don't talk to her. Let her do what she wants to do..

    In the FIRST place, you're not a professional seller, so even if she complains to the state authorities/cops, they're NOT going to do anything about it... Secondarily, you have a piece of paper that is just as valid as hers. Thirdly, the MOST she can do is SUE you in small claims court for her money... It ain't no big deal if she does... You go. You show the judge YOUR paper, and she'll show the judge HER paper and the judge will decided if you cheated her. If so, you pay the money back...

    But, you DIDN'T cheat her, and no judge will find that you did. Go stick up for yourself, and don't worry. A lot worse stuff could happen.

    excon
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    odinn7 Posts: 7,691, Reputation: 1547
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    #29

    Feb 23, 2012, 01:27 PM
    Listen to excon... that is excellent advice.

    She is most likely bluffing anyway and if she's not... oh well. Your paper backs you up so it shows you weren't attempting any kind of fraud.

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