[tomder55]

Do you believe a Friday evening babysitter for four hours would qualify under that bill?

Until I see the exception for babysitters then I think they will be able to use this law to make that case. Oh I think under 18 babysitters and illegal domestic workers will be excluded . But the Dems want domestic workers to be filtered through an agency ,preferably a state controlled agency using unionized workers. Ultimately the law will screw the adult babysitters of the State.

[speechlesstx]

He does - he believes that bill means they get $10 an hour, 2 weeks vacation, health insurance and severance pay.

Dude, if your sole intent is to mock others you need another hobby. You also need to learn the meaning of 'hyperbole' if you're going to use the word, and to know when you've been thrashed in a debate. You have nothing but ad hominems and diversions, I have the truth on my side.

I know the meaning of hyperbole, as in your above quote and not my source. I know the meaning of "any man, woman and minor employed in any occupation", "domestic work employees" and "delete the exclusion". Man up, dude, you know I'm right.

[TUT317]

Another example of regulations run amok. California is moving through their legislature a bill that would require parents "to provide workers' compensation benefits, rest and meal breaks and paid vacation time" to babysitters.



Terrible bill is an understatement. This is just plain stupid, you would have to hire 2 people to go on a date with your wife, a primary sitter and a reliever.

I can't see anything in the legislation that mentions 'Friday night' (re the original post above). I would say this is the hyperbole being referred to. In other words the 'Friday night out' claim is being inferred from the preamble to the legislation.


Tut

[speechlesstx]

That's not hyperbole, Friday night dinner and a movie is an Anerican tradition. Until the bill excludes the other tradition, hiring a teenage babysitter, the Friday night out reference is spot on.

Now, does anyone want to refute the claims on the facts, or just keep playing silly games?

[TUT317]

That's not hyperbole, Friday night dinner and a movie is an Anerican tradition. Until the bill excludes the other tradition, hiring a teenage babysitter, the Friday night out reference is spot on.

Hi Speech,

That's what makes the original article's reference to Friday night a hyperbole. It is commits the fallacy of appealing to popularity. In other words, it is the writers intended aim to prove the claim true because of the tradition involved.

As stated before the conclusion reached in the article cannot be gleaned from the preamble which represents a statement about about the existing law and the intention of the legislation.

Tut

[excon]

Hello again:

My right wing friends tell us that corporations don't need regulations because it's in themselves interest NOT to screw people...

But, when it comes to INDIVIDUALS acting in themselves interest, they seem to LOSE faith. So, they enact lots and lots of laws governing PERSONAL behavior... That's how come we're the worlds largest jailer...

I'm missing something here. Am I the only one?? Aren't individuals running corporations??

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hi Speech,

That's what makes the original article's reference to Friday night a hyperbole. It is commits the fallacy of appealing to popularity. In other words, it is the writers intended aim to prove the claim true because of the tradition involved.

Appealing to popularity is not hyperbole. Hyperbole is exaggeration and there is none in the article. Debate the facts or not, OK?

[NeedKarma]

Hyperbole is exaggeration and there is none in the article.

In big bold letters at the top the article leads off by calling it the "Babysitting bill".

The you said:

you would have to hire 2 people to go on a date with your wife, a primary sitter and a reliever

.

[speechlesstx]

In big bold letters at the top the article leads off by calling it the "Babysitting bill".

You do realize that media outlets write their own headlines.

The you said:

You would have to hire 2 people to go on a date with your wife, a primary sitter and a reliever

All true. If it's true it isn't hyperbole.

[NeedKarma]

Can't follow your logic anymore, it makes my head ache.

[speechlesstx]

Can't follow your logic anymore, it makes my head ache.

I can't help it if you can't figure out what hyperbole is. That's a good indication you should stop throwing the word around.

[NeedKarma]

Oh I know what it means.

It's your logic I can't follow. You say that there's none in the article, then I point out a case in the article headline and you reply with the fact that they write their own headlines. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[speechlesstx]

Oh I know what it means.

It's your logic I can't follow. You say that there's none in the article, then I point out a case in the article headline and you reply with the the fact that they write their own headlines. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.

a) If the point of any of this was discussing the headline you MIGHT have a point, but since the bill in its current form DOES affect babysitters you don't.

b) I am addressing the subject matter not the headline, which is usually written by the paper's staff, not the contributing author. The headline is irrelevant to the discussion, which you refuse to engage in. You're busy playing games and trying to make me look silly. It won't work, it just makes you look petty.

c) You seem to think posting a link to part of the bill's text is "discussion" and it isn't.

Now, do you have anything to add to the discussion, or do you just want to play your silly games? If you want to play games play them by yourself because I am wasting no more time on you in this.

[excon]

Hello again,

Can we cut the sniping please? I asked a very good question that you MISSED because you want to fight... Would somebody answer it please...

I await your response with baited breath.

excon

[NeedKarma]

...or do you just want to play your silly games?.

What I am trying to do is to get people to calm down on the inflammatory, divisive rhetoric that gets thrown around. It doesn't lead to discussion, it just leads to pedantic pejoratives hurled around.

[speechlesstx]

What I am trying to do is to get people to calm down on the inflammatory, divisive rhetoric that gets thrown around. It doesn't lead to discussion, it just leads to pedantic pejoratives hurled around.

Someone left the irony on again.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again,

Can we cut the sniping please??

As long as certain self-appointed board monitors whose admitted intent is to monitor my posts play games and sling bullsh*t instead of engaging in the discussion, I'm going to call them on it. You can either help me stop this nonsense or let it continue.

[NeedKarma]

As long as certain self-appointed board monitors whose admitted intent is to monitor my posts play games and sling bullsh*t instead of engaging in the discussion, I'm going to call them on it. You can either help me stop this nonsense or let it continue.

You post misinformation and I'll call you on it. And that's true anyone who does it - you're just one of the worst offenders. :) And that post you linked to: that's when you were trying to chase me off this website for daring to correct you.

[speechlesstx]

You post misinformation and I'll call you on it. And that's true anyone who does it - you're just one of the worst offenders. :) And that post you linked to: that's when you were trying to chase me off this website for daring to correct you.

Have you no shame?

[paraclete]

Ovbiously not