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tomder55 · Apr 2, 2011, 04:23 PM

so Ex ;would burning the American flag be the equivalent of the incitement provocation if someone went in wild rampage over the burning ?

As I recall ,that was a legitimate expression of 1st amendment rights.

Would the artist who soaked the Christian cross in urine get arrested for inciting me to rage ? As I recall I was forced to become that artist's patron with my tax dollars.

paraclete · Apr 3, 2011, 03:43 AM

Don't ask ex complex questions he just knows he has rights or is that wrongs

tomder55 · Apr 3, 2011, 04:20 AM

This LA Art exhibit has paintings in the theme 'Jesus is coming'. I'll piont out that one of them has a depiction of Sarah Palin being crucified .Another one has Jesus as a chimp. Another one has Jesus dressed in a women's bathing suit .
If Christians went into an uncontrollable killing rage ,should the artists be arrested ? How about if some artists drew cartoons of Mohammed ,and Muslims across the ummah went into a murderous rage. Should those artists get arrested ?
http://therandr.org/content/jesus-coming

paraclete · Apr 3, 2011, 06:12 AM

Tom you know for the most part Muslims are uneducated rabble, so they are easily maniplated by fanatics. Muslims riot over depictions of Mudhutmad because they know they have been insulted. In The west Jesus long ago gave us a sanction to say whatever we wanted to about him, but mudhutmad did not give us the same dispensation. God does not need to be defended and nor do his true prophets

excon · Apr 3, 2011, 06:36 AM

Hello clete:

Your bigotry is showing, and it AIN'T purty. Our wars over there LOOK like we ARE at war with Islam... Your posts confirm it.

excon

cdad · Apr 3, 2011, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello clete:

Your bigotry is showing, and it AIN'T purty. Our wars over there LOOK like we ARE at war with Islam... Your posts confirm it.

excon

Lets be honest here. Its not really a war it has turned into a police action. You and I both know the difference. The large part to overcome is the inbrededness of ideoligy that has existed. It's a sad state of affairs. We saw the same thing in the soviet union with the oppression of its politics. The world is in flux. Information and choices are the key to our future.

excon · Apr 3, 2011, 06:50 AM

Hello again, dad:

If you were refuting my post about clete's bigotry, and what it LOOKS like, I couldn't tell.

excon

cdad · Apr 3, 2011, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, dad:

If you were refuting my post about clete's bigotry, and what it LOOKS like, I couldn't tell.

excon

No, not refuting your post to him. Just the wording that keeps being thrown around. When I think of war I think of a military that goes in and breaks things with a plan to win. If your being shot at you get to shoot back. But in this case our guys and gals have their hands tied and can't do what they have been trained to do. Im getting tired of that part. Its not a war. It's a police action that is taking place and Im not happy with what the idiots in Washington are trying to do to our respected military personel.

paraclete · Apr 3, 2011, 02:44 PM

Ex Stating the facts is not bigotary. Bigotary is that dill in Florida who burnt the Quoran because he disagreed with it. I disagree with it too but I'm not holding a burning anytime soon. Seems to me Ex you should look closer to home for your bigots

speechlesstx · Apr 4, 2011, 04:38 AM

Bigotry is that 'Jesus is coming' exhibit.

tomder55 · Apr 4, 2011, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Ex Stating the facts is not bigotary. Bigotary is that dill in Florida who burnt the Quoran because he disagreed with it. I disagree with it too...

We should make it very clear to " Rev " Jones that he is a complete un-Christian scum bag . Not only has he incited these murderous protests ,but he has put our bravest in additional needless harms way. Just because I think he has the right to burn the Koran doesn't mean in any way I support his actions.

smoothy · Apr 4, 2011, 05:50 PM

Personally... burning a pile of paper has done more to prove Islam is the religion of hate and intolerance than every word that has tried to claim otherwise up to this point.

And nobody has proven that more effectively until now.

And it shows how many in Afghanistan aren't deserving of freedom. Wonder how many of them have burned bibles and/or Christians in the recent past?

The Koran is no more deserving of protection than the Bible or the American Flag. PERIOD. End of story.

Personally I'm not a huge fan of the guy. But he has a set of balls that nobody in the PC movement has.

If I was president... I would publicly announce the killing of Christians, Destruction of Churches or desecration of Bibles will be met with the very same reaction...

Respect is earned... not given out freely. When Tolerance is shown to Christians and Jews by Muslims universally in all Muslim majority nations... THEN, and only then would would I condemn that Reverend.

I'm NOT a bible thumper... but I'm sick and tired of Muslims through threats and violence demanding respect they do not show others.

cdad · Apr 4, 2011, 05:55 PM

What do you expect from people that allow this and want to bring it to the world.

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tomder55 · Apr 5, 2011, 06:29 AM

The real question here is why would Krazy Karzai bring attention to the Koran burning ?

This burning happened weeks ago. Thurs. Karzai made a speech echoing Excon's thought that Jones should be arrested .The mullahs picked up the theme during Friday's prayers ,and that is when the rioting commenced.
It all seems very staged to me ;nothing like this spontaneous outrage that it is being depicted as.

Jones is an idiot who was rightfully being ignored . But it is not he who is responsible for the deaths.

excon · Apr 5, 2011, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

The real question here is why would Krazy Karzai bring attention to the Koran burning ?

Hello again, tom:

As always, you ask the RIGHT questions. First off, I don't think Karzai is our friend, and I think we should sh*t can him now, rather than later...

It's becoming clear what Jones did. (By the way, I don't think he ought to be arrested anymore. What? You think you're the only ones whose leg jerks?) He palled up with Al Jazera, and the burning was broadcast LIVE in Afghanistan.

From the Afghani's standpoint, this was a MAJOR American church that CONFIRMED America's war on Islam.. From that perspective, it's a little more understandable. Yeah, they take their book pretty seriously. Do I think they're NUTS for doing so?? I DO... But, I think you guys are NUTS for taking YOUR book so seriously too.

excon

tomder55 · Apr 5, 2011, 06:54 AM

Perhaps ,but I would have to be mideval to go into an uncontrollable rage over the many provocations here against Christianity .
Any comic who needs a cheap laugh invokes nuns or Catholic priests. We pay our artists with tax dollars to mock Christianity in the most grotesque and disgusting ways.
Your attempt at moral equivalence doesn't work.

excon · Apr 5, 2011, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Perhaps ,but I would have to be mideval to go into an uncontrollable rage over the many provocations here against Christianity .

Your attempt at moral equivalence doesn't work.

Hello again, tom:

If you want EQUIVALENCE, let's get EQUIVALENT. Using IT's excellent logic, if YOUR country had been invaded, and YOUR country was occupied, and YOUR civilians are getting killed, and you are SOOO uneducated that you have no idea WHY they're there, other than your Imam telling you that America is at war with Islam.

Certainly, there's PLENTY of video evidence PROVING their point, from Abu Grahib, to rendition, to Gitmo, to the RECENT stryker killers, to torture, and finally, to this Jones turkey.

So, given that you're a good Christian man, I believe you WOULD rage against an enemy that DID to you, what we are doing to them.

excon

tomder55 · Apr 5, 2011, 07:36 AM

Put the blame where it belongs :to the leaders like Karzai,the clerics ,the politicians in the greater AfPakia who see Afghanistan as a pawn in the greater game of who dominates the Indus and Hindu Kush .Those are ones manipulating them. Certainly they know why the US is there .

speechlesstx · Apr 5, 2011, 08:04 AM

Exactly, this was exactly as you said, staged. I said in the OP the Mullahs stirred this up... they know exactly what they're doing.

excon · Apr 5, 2011, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Exactly, this was exactly as you said, staged. I said in the OP the Mullahs stirred this up...they know exactly what they're doing.

Hello again, Steve:

Well then... If we can't arrest Jones for his SPEECH, maybe we can arrest him for terrorism. Not only did he act in consort with terrorists, HE was the guy who DID the STAGING you refer to.

The last few posts appear to direct the blame to where it SHOULD be directed. I'll take that as a backhanded apology for wrongly blaming the religion.

excon