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    Enigma1999 Posts: 2,223, Reputation: 1077
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    Sep 16, 2010, 12:51 PM

    I have a silly question, but this wait time, does it have anything to do with the fact that Susan is in Alberta.

    See, I live in Arizona, and a similar situation happened to my friend recenly, and when she went to the hospital, they took it very seriously. There was no wait time for her to be evaluated. So I was just wondering.
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    Sep 16, 2010, 01:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    I have a silly question, but this wait time, does it have anything to do with the fact that Susan is in Alberta.

    See, I live in Arizona, and a simular situation happened to my friend recenly, and when she went to the hospital, they took it very seriously. There was no wait time for her to be evaluated. So I was just wondering.
    That is yet to be determined, perhaps when Susan returns we can see!

    Here in Illinois,the 'wait' isn't long either.If someone is in need,it get's met.That could be the healthcare system WE might have soon... I really don't know,but I hope not.
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    Sep 16, 2010, 02:18 PM

    The night I went to the hospital, they told me that all beds were full in the hospital and all of the ER beds were full of people waiting to get beds.
    They did keep asking if I was SU, and that has been asked before. I am starting to think that you have to be Suicidal to be fast tracked for help. I only have one pill left of the meds and will have to play it by ear I guess. All he said (ER doc) is take every 8 hours when needed, which I have been.

    Susan
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    Sep 16, 2010, 02:44 PM
    For those unfamiliar, or misinformed about Canada's health care system, there is no wait for an emergency. None. If, a Doctor determines there is a high risk of suicide presenting, he will do one of three things. He will admit immediately, or, he will have the patient admitted to a psychiatric hospital nearest the patients home, or, the patient will be sent by ambulance to a psychiatric hospital for assessment and treatment. The very least he will do, is thouroughly examine the patient and determine the best course of action. This is NO cost to the patient whatsoever, which is the only difference in comparable emergency rooms faced with the same person/patient, in the states.

    We have no way of knowing what the exchange was between our OP, and the treatment she has had. I find it hard to believe that they would not have given her a script, and I suspect someone was with her (I hope so), so that if she was unable to explain herself sufficiently enough, a parent or caregiver could help determine the best course of action.

    Mogran, the referral you have been already given to the mental health services is the route you need to go. If you are not suicidal, why were you at the emergency ward in the first place.

    Please follow the instructions you were given by the first doctor you talked about, who has made a referral on your behalf, for further assessment. This is at no cost to you, as you know, and I hope you take advantage of that, and an appointment is made soon to get the ball rolling.

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    Sep 16, 2010, 02:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jake2008 View Post
    For those unfamiliar, or misinformed about Canada's health care system, there is no wait for an emergency. None. If, a Doctor determines there is a high risk of suicide presenting, he will do one of three things. He will admit immediately, or, he will have the patient admitted to a psychiatric hospital nearest the patients home, or, the patient will be sent by ambulance to a psychiatric hospital for assessment and treatment. The very least he will do, is thouroughly examine the patient and determine the best course of action. This is NO cost to the patient whatsoever, which is the only difference in comparable emergency rooms faced with the exact same person/patient, in the states.

    We have no way of knowing what the exchange was between our OP, and the treatment she has had. I find it hard to believe that they would not have given her a script, and I suspect someone was with her (I hope so), so that if she was unable to explain herself sufficiently enough, a parent or caregiver could help determine the best course of action.

    Mogran, the referral you have been already given to the mental health services is the route you need to go. If you are not suicidal, why were you at the emergency ward in the first place.

    Please follow the instructions you were given by the first doctor you talked about, who has made a referral on your behalf, for further assessment. This is at no cost to you, as you know, and I hope you take advantage of that, and an appointment is made soon to get the ball rolling.
    Thank you for clarifying that. I guess that's where I was confused, because Susan was saying that although not suicidal, she was considering cutting herself. So, I wasn't quite sure why they released her.

    You are correct though, I too also find it strange that they didn't give her a script.


    Susan, I agree, I think that you should stick to the instructions the Doc has given you.

    I wish you lots of luck.
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    Sep 16, 2010, 03:03 PM
    I hope that you will phone your Doctor's office, and ask if there is another doctor there who can fill the prescription for you. Maybe your husband can help you get this done.

    I don't know why this wasn't done in emerg, maybe they didn't want to send you on your way with enough medication to seriously hurt yourself, I have no idea. But, try next time, not to run out of medication. You will be at the bottom of the triage for a prescription refill, behind car crash victims, heart attacks, shooting victims, mothers in labour, etc.

    Try to be patient. If you are in crisis, I presume that you, or your husband have phone numbers at hand, and 911 in an emergency.
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    Sep 17, 2010, 11:17 PM

    So many ? And some misinformation. I will try to correct it as best as I can.
    1. I went to emergency as I was feeling like I was going to explode on the inside(best way I can explain it). Also the crisis line asked me to go in due to my diet idea.
    2. The medication I was worried about getting filled was for my anxiety and perscribed by the emergency room doctor. He gave me some in the hospital and asked me to see my family doctor.
    3. We did call my family doctor and explained the situation but he had just come back from vacation and was booked up all week. I have an appointment for this week coming. I will be out of my meds but there is nothing I can do for that.
    4. I suffer from BPD and self injury and severe depression. I am on a wait list for DBT.
    5. I am also on a wait list between 2-3 months to talk to a psych doc as the system is that overloaded.

    I think I have answered everything. I am doing better but am worried as I have no anti anxiety meds (which the ER doc gave me).

    Susan
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    Sep 18, 2010, 02:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mogrann View Post
    I am doing better but am worried as I have no anti anxiety meds (which the ER doc gave me).

    Susan
    Here when I am about to be out of certain medications,I call the doctors office for a refill order to be sent to the pharmacy,or the pharmacy contacts the doctors office requesting refills.It works either way.

    IF... you want these meds and think they will assist you in recovering/to keep stable, it's entirely up to you to take the initiative and make those calls.

    If things have settled down since the initial incident,perhaps you don't need the anxiety meds, only you know the truth behind that.Taking something because you THINK you MIGHT need them,well,that borders on abuse.(or mis-use at the least)

    Beyond that fear of no meds, how are you doing?Has the rest of your life settled down to where you can manage things again?
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    Sep 18, 2010, 04:36 AM
    Thank you for offering more information that puts things together a bit better for those trying to understand.

    All I can say is, it looks like you have things lined up, and I hope you will feel better after you visit your Doctor next week.

    It's good that you are feeling better too. All the best to you Mogrann.

    A p.s. to KBC, in Ontario, refills cannot be done over the phone. They used to be, but that hasn't been done for years. It may be different in Alberta, and certainly worth a try, but I suspect she will need to visit her GP to have scripts refilled.
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    Sep 18, 2010, 04:50 AM

    I am sorry for what you have been through in life
    The past is the past and no matter how hard we try, not one thing can be changed about it because... well it already passed
    Your past can shape your future though---you can become a stronger woman who don't take **** from no one. You can become an advisor to those who like you were abused.
    Blaming others is not going to get you anywhere as it keeps your focus on the past which is where you should be moving AWAY from. Today is your present, try to focus on that.. focus on the present with the goal of making tomorrow better.

    As for cutting the fat out of your stomach. This is not a sensible idea. If you want to get a bypass, get a bypass with a professional... trying it yourself is suicidal
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    Sep 18, 2010, 04:51 AM

    You will get better!
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    Sep 18, 2010, 05:09 AM

    It depends on the doctor and on the pharmacy.

    Drugs like Ativan are highly addictive and can be abused and that is why it is given in low amounts.

    As far as lining everything up it is good that all the ducks are in a row and if you really feel in trouble you need to admit yourself in the ward.

    As far as starving yourself, it will only help you gain more weight. Skipping meals and not eating will not help and once you start eating again you will gain a whole bunch more weight.

    Anxiety medication is just a quick fix and you can not rely or depend on them. You need to work on this issues with the help of all emergency doctors, family doctors, counselors and psychiatrists.

    Good luck with your journey and remember anytime you feel that your in trouble. Go to your nearest hospital and also reach out to the 24/7 health line and help lines.

    Hope you work out all of your issues and there is NEVER a quick fix to anxiety or paranoia, it will take time to go through all your history and to work through your issues and also finding the right medication that will find a balance in your life.

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