[tomder55]

The tea party is nothing more than the right wing of the right wing. We've seen them before when they called themselves evangelical's.

We certainly do disagree on this point. They are mainstream ;what others have called silent majority in the past. They are who the founders were referring to when they said in the Declaration of Independence .Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

You wrongly smear them with the charge that they would like civil rights dismantled ;but you are closer to the truth in pointing out the New Deal as the point when government started sticking it's hands deeply in their pockets .

A false smear repeated often enough resonates and that explains why spit and you would believe that these good plain folks are a bunch of extremists .

But the facts don't lie .

The national breakdown of the Tea Party composition is 57 percent Republican, 28 percent Independent and 13 percent Democratic, according to three national polls

Survey: Four in 10 Tea Party members are Democrats or independents - The Hill's Ballot Box

Fiscal issues unite the tea party folks in common cause.

[spitvenom]

When did I say they were ALL racists. Please don't put words in my mouth!

[excon]

You wrongly smear them with the charge that they would like civil rights dismantled ;

Hello again, tom:

Nahhhh. I'm haven't smeared 'em yet. I'm waiting to find out if they ARE Rand Paul, or is Rand Paul THEM. Nobody has answered me about that stuff yet. You DO agree, there's a WIDE disparity between them...

When and if, I find out that they ARE like the candidate they just elected (and I don't see why they wouldn't be), THAT'S when I'll smear them. Certainly, a person who believes that people shouldn't discriminate, but when they DO, government should look the other way, OUGHT TO BE SMEARED. And, I promise to do my share.

excon

[tomder55]

When did I say they were ALL racists. Please don't put words in my mouth!

I apologize for that and will modify it to the word extremists .

[excon]

I apologize for that and will modify if to the word extremists .

Hello again, tom:

If the tea partiers, to a man, support Rand Pauls position on the Civil Rights law, they ARE racists. And, I certainly don't mind you saying I said so.

excon

[tomder55]

I know what you are talking about... his appearance on Rachel Madcow.

Man you jumped off his bandwagon in a hurry . I thought you liked libertarian purity.

By the way ;I never heard you complain about the many questionable organizations that support his old man

[excon]

I know what you are talking about ....his appearance on Rachel Madcow. Man you jumped off his bandwagon in a hurry . I thought you liked libertarian purity.

Hello again, tom:

I'm not a PURE anything. I deviate. I think. It wasn't his appearance. It's his views. His appearance just made 'em crystal clear.

Libertarianism, contrary to how its purported, isn't simply uber right. It's uber left too. That's the path I took to get there. Ron and Rand took another path. Where those two paths converge, we agree. Where they don't, we don't.

As we've discussed, the Pauls and I don't approach the drug war from the same place, either. But, if it's ended because of states rights, or ended because of the commerce clause, or the equal protection clause, makes no difference to me. The result WOULD be the same.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Paul has responded so take it for it's worth.

[spitvenom]

Ok Maybe the tea party people are racist or at least Mark Williams is. Monkey God really!!

Tea Party Express organizer Mark Williams blogged on his Web site last week that the mosque - to be constructed near the former site of the World Trade Center - would be a "monument ... for the worship of the terrorists' monkey-god and a 'cultural center' to propagandize for the extermination of all things not approved by their cult."

[tomder55]

Well Rand made it a point during the campaign to distance himself from his old man. Perhaps this is one of those issues.

Unless he also retracts then daddy Paul clearly was against the Civil Rights Act.
He was in fact the only member of Congress who voted against recognizing the Act on it's 40th anniversary.

YouTube - The Trouble With Forced Integration

Rand is wise to distance himself from some of his father's off the wall positions.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

His appearance needed no response. It was not gotcha TV. He has plenty of time to clarify his views and did so quite well. Besides, his "response" didn't back away from his central claim, anyway, because his central claim is bedrock libertarianism. Private business, he believes, should be PRIVATE. It's that simple.

I don't disagree. But, what I think business should be able to do in the name of privacy, and what he thinks, isn't the same. Libertarianism isn't a euphemism for anarchy.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Ex, I don't know a darn thing about Rand Paul other than he's the son of your hero, Ron. I was just throwing the info out there as a public service because I'm a nice guy.

[tomder55]

. He has plenty of time to clarify his views and did so quite well. Besides, his "response" didn't back away from his central claim, anyway, because his central claim is bedrock libertarianism. Private business, he believes, should be PRIVATE. It's that simple.

I don't disagree.

Well he'd better think his position through and do a better job explaining himself during the campaign or the seat will go Democrat.

I wonder if he's even thought through his ideological purity . I'd like to see how far he thinks a private business can discriminate.

I know you really don't think that because you won't even give leeway to pharmacy clerks who don't want to dispense abortion drugs.

The lunch counter example is simple and cliche-ish and so is the all-white country club. I'm sure that is as far as Rachel Madcow thought it through also.But I just watched the video of the exchange and to her credit she gave him every opportunity to step out of the mine field he walked into . To me his response was full mode political tap dance. Certainly not a breath of fresh air.

But lets take his position beyond the lunch counter .How about a private banker who exercises his libertarian right to refuse a loan to a minority owned business ? How about in real estate ? Should a landlord be allowed to discriminate based on race ?

His uber-libertarian position on private business would seem to lead to these conclusions. As a representative of all the people his views are completely unacceptable.

I have not to date studied Rand Paul that closely . But
I have my eyes on him now .

The tea party rallied behind him because of fiscal issues. It remains to be seen if he continues to get their support.

[excon]

Hello tom:

I love Rachel Madcow. I have a thing for lesbo chicks.

excon

[spitvenom]

I thought republicans were for keeping government out of peoples business. Tom Corbett the Republican running for Gov. of PA subpoenaed Twitter for account information of bloggers who have criticizes his campaign tactics. This guy just lost every single nerd like me with this stupid move!!

Attorney General Tom Corbett subpoenaes Twitter account information of blogger who criticizes his campaign tactics | - PennLive.com

[NeedKarma]

I thought republicans were for keeping government out of peoples business. Tom Corbett the Republican running for Gov. of PA subpoenaed Twitter for account information of bloggers who have criticizes his campaign tactics. This guy just lost every single nerd like me with this stupid move!!!!

Attorney General Tom Corbett subpoenaes Twitter account information of blogger who criticizes his campaign tactics | - PennLive.com

If there one thing I've noticed about republicans it's the inherent hypocrisy in their politics.

[tomder55]

More results due in this weekend

The Hawaii congressional race should be decided (I think ) . But since there is a large proportion of ballots being mailed in ,it could take some time to finish the count.

There are 2 major Democrat candidates among the 14 people on the ballot . If they split the Dem vote ,there is a possibility that Obama's Blue Hawaii could go red.

Over in the nutmeg state ;the Dems thought the heir apparent to Sen Dodd would have a cakewalk to his corronation.

That was before we learned from the NY Slimes that Richard Blumenthal,the arrogant, pompus state Attorney General had a little problem in that he is a liar.
No ;not your typical lying politician .He has for years made the claim that he served in Vietnam when the truth is that he did everything in his power to avoid going to the war.

This revelation and his tap dance denial of something that is embedded in the public record has possibly put Connecticut into play. The Dems have to make a decision about running with Blumenthal or finding a suitable replacement (My own belief is that the Slimes published this stuff before the Dems Convention tonight to give the Dems a chance to find an alternative . Had it been a Republican they most likely would've held onto the story until after the party selected the candidate ) .

This is the last thing the Dems of Conn.need ;still reeling from the Dodd fall from grace and his decision to 'get out of Dodge' before the frog marching begins.
But my guess is that they run with Blumenthal anyway.

The Republicans also chose a candidate tonight. Th race is between former Congressman Rob Simmons and former World Wrestling Federation CEO Linda McMahon. McMahon is self financed and that may be the edge as Republicans are cash strapped because of the pitifully embarrassing job that RNC Michael Steele has done.

[tomder55]

Re Corbett
Spit .I'll reserve judgement . The news makes it sound like he is going after bloggers critical of him .But there must be more to it than that . He must have hundreds of critics anonomously blogging against him. He has made many enemies in your state going after the good ole boy network in Harrisburg.

I'm not saying you are wrong . But this sounds like we don't have the whole story yet.

[spitvenom]

Here is a little more info. Corbett subpoenas Twitter for critics' names | Philly | 05/20/2010

[NeedKarma]

Here is a little more info. Corbett subpoenas Twitter for critics' names | Philly | 05/20/2010

He's an idiot. He's about to learn all about the Streisand effect.