[cdad]

really perhaps you would like to live on $23 a month?

The question should have been would I like a free months worth of wages. Sure who wouldn't.

[tickle]

This is so sad, you know, our Toronto Star reported today that the bags of rice given out from supplies were being sold for 3 times their value. Medical supplies are running out, they are afraid children are being kidnapped from the many tent cities set up and here we are worrying about how much one can live on for a month.

I just hate this, you know, I was down there (not for this disaster) but just to help fight the poverty level, educate and nothing ever changed. So will it know ?

tick

[paraclete]

This is so sad, you know, our Toronto Star reported today that the bags of rice given out from supplies were being sold for 3 times their value. Medical supplies are running out, they are afraid children are being kidnapped from the many tent cities set up and here we are worrying about how much one can live on for a month.

I just hate this, you know, I was down there (not for this disaster) but just to help fight the poverty level, educate and nothing ever changed. So will it know ?

tick

I think you know it takes a long time for things to change in 3rd world countries. However much we might like to bulldoze the place and start again, it can't be done. All that can be done is to introduce industries so that local people can have employment and economic growth will happen. The haitian president called for food aid to stop as it is destroying local agricultural industry but the world will go on doing what it wants to do so it can feel good

[twinkiedooter]

The Fateful Geological Prize Called Haiti

This is an excellent article for you to read Paraclete about exactly why Haiti had a man made or man engineered "earthquake". That was no normal earthquake. That was a HAARP induced earthquake, plain and simple due to the nature of the quake and the unnormal aftershocks days later.

The reason for all the delay in the humanitarian aid to Haiti is that is is engineered NOT to be distributed. The Haitian people are supposed to die. Yes, I know what I am talking about. I've sat on my fingers for too long about this topic and have finally decided to set the record straight.

There have been a lot of airplanes that were not permitted to land with aid to Haiti. Russia sent 2 IL76's (Russian civilian cargo planes) loaded with medical supplies and personnel that were denied landing. They had to go to Cuba before they crashed into the ocean for fuel. The Russians ended up sending the planes back home.

It's not that the aid is not forthcoming, it's that the aid, whether food, water or medical supplies and medical personnel are not permitted to be freely distributed unless under heavy military guard accompanying the relief workers by UN protocol.

The people of Port Au Prince were denied the ability to leave the capitol and were forced to stay there. Some were able to leave prior to the roadblocks and turnbacks. Now they are virtual prisoners of the city.

The people are purposely withheld the necessary medical aid. They are withheld clean water and food.

I really wondered from the git go about this "operation" when who should magically appear only hours after this "disaster" but good, old Anderson Cooper a known CIA person. Hmmmmmmm. What part of this "operation" sounds like it was planned, well planned... all of it. All of it.

And why is Haiti now a US occupied country all of a sudden? Coincidence. I don't think so.

It's all about the oil and gas and $$$$$$. We're talking billions here. Billions of $$$$$$ into oil conglomerate's pockets.

How are the folks from the engineered Katrina "disaster" doing today some 5 years later considering all the money dumped into New Orleans and the surrounding disaster area? The people for most part moved away never to return to their land. Some have returned, but very few. New Orleans is still very much a disaster to this day and will never be the same.

I do not forsee the country of Haiti ever being as populated as it was before the "disaster". This country will deliberately lose it's large population one way or another if the big oil conglomerates get ahold of what they want in drilling for more oil, gas. Aristide wanted to have the oil money used to buoy his country's economy. No wonder he was deposed and exiled as he didn't go along with the game plan of what others wanted. The others wanted all the money for themselves and not share with the poor people of Haiti.

If you think otherwise about what I just said you are very illinformed.

[cdad]

I didn't see HAARP mentioned anywhere in that article. Is it somewhere else ?

[paraclete]

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If you think otherwise about what I just said you are very illinformed.

Not as ill informed as you I think. What does ionospheric physics have to do with earthquakes

[rosemcs]

Twinkie, you are right, the global research article was very informative. Thank you. Although, it did not include HAARP, and you did add the earthquake to the pot as a conspiracy theory. You bring up a very good point... and there is no judgement at all from me either way as nature's power is so unfathomable. It's all interesting and as evil knows no bounds, who is really to say whether this event can really be man-made or not.

It makes you wonder what next...

[tomder55]

HAARP?? Lol .This was a tin foil hat theory first forwarded by Hugo Chavez' state-controlled media.According to the theory HAARP ;operating in Alaska ,targeted Haiti so the US would have a pretext to taking over the country.

One cute variation of this is that HAARP was targeting Cuba and missed.
Chavista "Experts" Say U.S. Military Caused Haitian Earthquake - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

[speechlesstx]

Well, HAARP must have gotten 'em right where we want 'em. Haiians are now clamoring for the US to take over.

[paraclete]

The Fateful Geological Prize Called Haiti

This is an excellent article for you to read Paraclete about exactly why Haiti had a man made or man engineered "earthquake". That was no normal earthquake. That was a HAARP induced earthquake, plain and simple due to the nature of the quake and the unnormal aftershocks days later.

The reason for all the delay in the humanitarian aid to Haiti is that is is engineered NOT to be distributed. The Hatian people are supposed to die. Yes, I know what I am talking about. I've sat on my fingers for too long about this topic and have finally decided to set the record straight.

There have been a lot of airplanes that were not permitted to land with aid to Haiti. Russia sent 2 IL76's (Russian civilian cargo planes) loaded with medical supplies and personnel that were denied landing. They had to go to Cuba before they crashed into the ocean for fuel. The Russians ended up sending the planes back home.

It's not that the aid is not forthcoming, it's that the aid, whether food, water or medical supplies and medical personnel are not permitted to be freely distributed unless under heavy military guard accompanying the relief workers by UN protocol.

The people of Port Au Prince were denied the ability to leave the capitol and were forced to stay there. Some were able to leave prior to the roadblocks and turnbacks. Now they are virtual prisoners of the city.

The people are purposely withheld the necessary medical aid. They are withheld clean water and food.

I really wondered from the git go about this "operation" when who should magically appear only hours after this "disaster" but good, old Anderson Cooper a known CIA person. Hmmmmmmm. What part of this "operation" sounds like it was planned, well planned........ all of it. All of it.

And why is Haiti now a US occupied country all of a sudden? Coincidence. I don't think so.

It's all about the oil and gas and $$$$$$. We're talking billions here. Billions of $$$$$$ into oil conglomerate's pockets.

How are the folks from the engineered Katrina "disaster" doing today some 5 years later considering all the money dumped into New Orleans and the surrounding disaster area? The people for most part moved away never to return to their land. Some have returned, but very few. New Orleans is still very much a disaster to this day and will never be the same.

I do not forsee the country of Haiti ever being as populated as it was before the "disaster". This country will deliberately lose it's large population one way or another if the big oil conglomerates get ahold of what they want in drilling for more oil, gas. Aristide wanted to have the oil money used to bouy his country's economy. No wonder he was deposed and exiled as he didn't go along with the game plan of what others wanted. The others wanted all the money for themselves and not share with the poor people of Haiti.

If you think otherwise about what I just said you are very illinformed.

I'd like to answer you twinkie but every time I do my browser looses the reply before I'm finished. Your conspiracy theory about the US stealing the oil from Haiti is a little disengenous after all they should have more than enough after stealing it from Iraq (another conspiracy theory) and even worse is your theory that the US used a secret weapon called HAARP, that is right out of science fiction and the movie the Core. It is possible there will be conflicit between Cuba and Haiti over exploitation of the field but we can expect the US to intervene in the typical manner (another conspiracy theory supporting the US invasion theory)

The Haitians have enough future money to feed themselves so why don't we let them raise some world bank loans and leave them to it. They want to develop their own agriculture not buy GM crops dumped on them from the US

[rosemcs]

This is not my opinion, I just came across it while looking at Haiti images on Youtube:

Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez has accused the United States of causing Haiti's disastrous earthquake. He says the U.S. navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is to take over Iran.
YouTube - Hugo Chavez : US Navy Created Haiti Earthquake! HAARP?

[rosemcs]

not as ill informed as you I think. what does ionospheric physics have to do with earthquakes

To answer your question:

The ionosphere is distinguished from other layers of Earth's atmosphere because it is electrically charged through exposure to solar radiation.

On a significant number of occasions, satellites have picked up disturbances in this part of the atmosphere 100-600km above areas that have later been hit by earthquakes.

One of the most important of these is a fluctuation in the density of electrons and other electrically-charged particles in the ionosphere.

Early warning

One study looked at over 100 earthquakes with magnitudes of 5.0 or larger in Taiwan over several decades. The researchers found that almost all of the earthquakes down to a depth of about 35km were preceded by distinct electrical disturbances in the ionosphere.

The analysis was carried out by Jann-Yeng Liu, from the Center for Space and Remote Sensing Research in Chung-Li, Taiwan.

Though full details have yet to be released, the BBC understands that scientists also observed a "huge" signal in the ionosphere before the Magnitude 7.8 earthquake in China on 12 May.

NASA provides "Explanation" of China Earthquake: "Electrical disturbances on edge of atmosphere & impending quakes"

[tomder55]

N fact NASA and France's DEMETER satellites did pick up signs of an impending earthquake 3-4 days before it hit. The real problem is that although it has been proven that there is inonosperic activity prior to major quakes; the forecasting components are underfunded.

Data is collected ;but the dots are not connected until after the fact.
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Plan for quake 'warning system'



In NASA's case ;the one scientist assigned to interpret such data was away that week.
http://www.adn.com/earthquakes/v-pri...y/1107324.html

The current conventional wisdom is that the earth's magnetic field is a product of the molten core and any sizable shifts can be detected in advance.That is what is driving the tinfoil hats theory.

[cdad]

It has been proven that earthquakes generate electrical signals. And also at times plasma ( aka. Ball lightning ). It's a natural process. Its geology. That's why some animals get disturbed right before earthquakes. Its NOT HAARP. The only other quake trigger currently known is pressure. Most quakes have occurred during low tide situations because there is compression then release of the geo surface when covered by liquid. We still do not fully understand earthquakes .

[paraclete]

To answer your question:

The ionosphere is distinguished from other layers of Earth's atmosphere because it is electrically charged through exposure to solar radiation.

On a significant number of occasions, satellites have picked up disturbances in this part of the atmosphere 100-600km above areas that have later been hit by earthquakes.

One of the most important of these is a fluctuation in the density of electrons and other electrically-charged particles in the ionosphere.

Early warning

One study looked at over 100 earthquakes with magnitudes of 5.0 or larger in Taiwan over several decades. The researchers found that almost all of the earthquakes down to a depth of about 35km were preceded by distinct electrical disturbances in the ionosphere.

The analysis was carried out by Jann-Yeng Liu, from the Center for Space and Remote Sensing Research in Chung-Li, Taiwan.

Though full details have yet to be released, the BBC understands that scientists also observed a "huge" signal in the ionosphere before the Magnitude 7.8 earthquake in China on 12 May.

NASA provides "Explanation" of China Earthquake: "Electrical disturbances on edge of atmosphere & impending quakes"

Ok so HAARP research might have improved earthquake predicability it is a big jump to turning that around and saying that creating ionospheric disturbances can trigger earthquakes