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DonDaBal · Oct 27, 2009, 10:05 PM

Thank you for your word. I will update you the situation.

ScottGem · Oct 28, 2009, 06:50 AM

Please do. By the way, is their original unit now habitable?

DonDaBal · Oct 28, 2009, 11:01 AM

Yes, their new unit is spotless.
I spoke with our attorney, and it is the same response as yours and others'.
They just want to get cheaper rent and want to move out asap without any credit damage.
Let me update you what is happening next.

ScottGem · Oct 28, 2009, 11:08 AM

Have they been told they can move back into their original unit? What was their response to that?

DonDaBal · Oct 28, 2009, 11:13 AM

They want to move out without damaging their credit.
They want 30% cheaper rent for another 6 months.
They do not want to go back to 1 BD cause of their mother, who is ill, and 4 adults in 1 BD seems too many than 2 BD. Now they tasted honey, they do not want to go back.

twinkiedooter · Oct 28, 2009, 12:32 PM

Did you look into the density laws as I suggested? That definitely is way too many people now living in a 2 bedroom apartment and a 1 bedroom apartment previously. And, you need to remind them that their visitors have overstayed the 40 days' limit a long time ago. (be sure to count the days to present date when you inform them of this). What are they doing to do about remedying that rule?

They made the fire happen. The apartment complex didn't.

ScottGem · Oct 28, 2009, 12:35 PM

At this point in time I would not deal directly with them anymore than you have to. Let the lawyers handle it.

DonDaBal · Oct 28, 2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

Did you look into the density laws as I suggested? That definitely is way too many people now living in a 2 bedroom apartment and a 1 bedroom apartment previously. And, you need to remind them that their visitors have overstayed the 40 days' limit a long time ago. (be sure to count the days to present date when you inform them of this). What are they doing to do about remedying that rule?

They made the fire happen. The apartment complex didn't.

The local density law(LA county) is not specifically mention/limit certain number, especially to a family member visitor. Attorney called it, "Grey Area". We can only define with the lease contract for sure, if it mention the number of tenants and fees for the visitors. I mentioned their overstay period, and the local law is treaky. If a visitor/visitors stay 14 days and out, and come back again a day or two, that cannot be charged as the lease agreement. Anyway, I will update you as it goes to the end of the story.
Thank you for your concern~