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NeedKarma · Sep 17, 2009, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

the left in this country

Show me a grassroots movement that idolizes and is infatuated Chavez. There isn't any. Quit spewing stuff that isn't true.

tomder55 · Sep 17, 2009, 05:51 AM

Not going to play your games. Whoever I name will not be enough to satisfy ;and I can provide pictures to support and you would claim they don't represent the American left .

However I will give you one who's writings are widely quoted by the lefties so he pretty much is the philosophical face of the American Left .

Noam Chomsky. In this case it is a mutual admiration society . Chavez held up a Chomsky book up at a UN address to endorse it.

Chomsky in return has expressed “solidarity with your anti-imperialist politics and with the important social transformations that your government is developing for the well being of the majority of Venezuelans.”

I've already mentioned Joe Kennedy's efforts to prop up Chevez' regime.
I can add cultural lefties like Oliver Stone and his propaganda doumentary ,Danny Glover ,and other celebtards who swoon over the guy. I can also mention various extreme left wing Congressional members who support him .

NeedKarma · Sep 17, 2009, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

you would claim they don't represent the American left .

That's my point entirely. No one person represents the "left". Say Kennedy or Chomsky but don't say that's the entire "left" view.
Chomsky's a pretty smart guy though.

tomder55 · Sep 17, 2009, 06:04 AM

Why not ? You paint with broad brushes .

NeedKarma · Sep 17, 2009, 06:05 AM

I feel like we're back in grade school sometimes.

tomder55 · Sep 17, 2009, 06:19 AM

When the lefty Democrats side with Chavez in his dispute with Colombia like they've done this year ,there is no doubt where their sympathies lie.
Colombia is embracing greater economic and political freedom ,and Chavez is becoming ever more repressive . But the Democrats have blocked things like free trade agreements last year and no doubt will not do a thing to help Colombia counter this military escalation by Chavez.

Yes often your silly nitpicking at facts is childish. The fact is that I could never give enough supporting proof to you to satisfy your dispute of my assertion .