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paraclete · Sep 8, 2009, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by adam7gur

Yes Paraclete you are very right!
The thing is that I AM confirming this message.I had a similar, not so detailed, myself before reading this!
I know this is true!
Instead of judging it by knowledge of the Bible, judge it by the Spirit of God that dwells inside you!Let Him tell you if this is true or not!

That is not how prophesy is confirmed, prophesy is confirmed when another person who has no fore knowledge of an earlier message brings forth a message under the unction of the Holy Spirit. What you are saying is that this other person is confirming your prophesy. Well I still place it in the to be judged category and I would like to hear other confirming witnesses from a place where there hasn't been discussion of H1N1

Remember some of the criteria I suggested for judgement
Enforced admission of the vaccine
The number of victims said to be a third of humanity dead
The shepards being asleep
And to this I would add
Evidence that those who have received the vaccine might be demon possessed. The nature of the particular possession that legion exhibited
Included insanity, self harm, rage. Multiple personality disorder, So with widespread injection it shouldn't take a degeneration in mental health long to show up and there to be widespead death.

arcura · Sep 8, 2009, 10:11 PM

paraclete,
THAT is very interesting.
Thanks for posting it.
Fred

paraclete · Sep 14, 2009, 06:05 PM

Just to help you all out Australia will have developed two vaccines by the end of the year

arcura · Sep 14, 2009, 10:16 PM

paraclete,
I think that is good news for the nice folks down under.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

paraclete · Sep 15, 2009, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by arcura

paraclete,
I think that is good news for the nice folks down under.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

I expect it will be good news for people everywhere fred

arcura · Sep 15, 2009, 09:13 PM

paraclete,
Could be.

N0help4u · Sep 20, 2009, 06:56 AM

I NEVER trusted the shots. People do die from the shots. Also many people get 'flu like symptoms' from the shots. I have known enough that that has happened to.
I do not believe THIS shot is the one that will contain the leprosy type stuff or be demoned possessed as Paraclete said but I do believe it is only a matter of time. Either a shot or the RFID implant is going to cause leprosy symptoms. Right now these shots are mainly preparing us to be complacent to accepting anything.

shazamataz · Sep 20, 2009, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

I expect it will be good news for people everywhere fred

I think it was a bit useless that they have developed it already but aren't releasing it until at least next month...

I have already had the flu so I'm immune, as have a lot of my friends.. would have been nice to become immune to it by injection instead of a week of being miserable.

N0help... I can understand where you are coming from but from my perspective flu shots are great... I have never known anyone to have ill effects from protecting themselves with the vaccines.

N0help4u · Sep 20, 2009, 01:26 PM

I have known quit a few that were puzzled at why they got the shot when they ended up with the flu from the shot. My mom quit taking them because of that.

galveston · Sep 20, 2009, 02:19 PM

The fourth horseman of Revelation would apparently include pestilence (disease). However these events will not begin before the rapture of the Church.

In the meantime, there will be many various diseases to deal with.

For perspective, we need to remember how many people die every year from medical procedures and from taking medicines prescribed by their doctors. I don't have the figures before me, but it surpasses by far the number of people who die from the flu.

I will not be taking the flu shot myself. I may be immune, as I had some kind of bad flu when I was 18 years old. Was sick for a week with fever, etc.

paraclete · Sep 20, 2009, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

I NEVER trusted the shots. People do die from the shots. Also many people get 'flu like symptoms' from the shots. I have known enough that that has happened to.
I do not believe THIS shot is the one that will contain the leprosy type stuff or be demoned possessed as Paraclete said but I do believe it is only a matter of time. Either a shot or the RFID implant is going to cause leprosy symptoms. Right now these shots are mainly preparing us to be complacent to accepting anything.

Hey I never suggested the shots would cause demonic possession,I argued against such nonsense. If you don't like the shots available in your own country order the Australian vaccine it's sure to be pure. We are assured that one of the things we will have to deal with in these days is pestilence and H1N1 falls into that category and there will be worse to come

N0help4u · Sep 24, 2009, 08:35 PM

I do agree with that.

Here is an article that says many nurses are against the swine flu shots because they have not been tested enough.

LI nurses to rally against mandatory swine flu vaccines

arcura · Sep 24, 2009, 10:07 PM

N0help4u,
Never the less if I can get the shot I will for my health is bad now as a diabetic and 76 years old.
So I will chance it that it will work for me.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

paraclete · Oct 27, 2009, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by arcura

N0help4u,
Never the less if I can get the shot I will for my health is bad now as a diabetic and 76 years old.
So I will chance it that it will work for me.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Hi risk eh? Go for it Fred, you should have it just in case. Say as a fellow diabetic I'm interested how are they treating you?

Alty · Oct 27, 2009, 02:47 PM

I'm not a nurse, I'm not a doctor, but I am working in the clinics offering the flu shot and the H1N1 shot. In fact, we started immunizing for H1N1 yesterday.

I can only tell you what I've been told.

NoHelp, I do want to address the symptoms of flu that can happen after getting the shot. Those symptoms only happen to a small percentage of people and usually go away within 24 hours. It's usually no more then a light fever and fatigue. The flu shot is not a live vaccine, so it's not possible to get the flu from the shot.

As for getting the flu despite getting the shot, that one's easy to answer. Every year the CDC determines which flu will be most prevalent and they create the vaccine for that strain. Sadly there are too many strains to immunize against. So, you're unlikely to get the strain that you were vaccinated for, but you can still catch another strain.

I once felt like many of you, I refused to get the shot because I wasn't properly informed. Now that I have the information I can say that not only did I get the seasonal flu shot I will be getting the H1N1 shot as well, as will my children.

As for any religious aspects of this, well, think long enough about anything and I'm sure you can find some way to twist it around and blame it on Satan.

J_9 · Oct 27, 2009, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Altenweg

I'm not a nurse, I'm not a doctor, but I am working in the clinics offering the flu shot and the H1N1 shot. In fact, we started immunizing for H1N1 yesterday.

I can only tell you what I've been told.

NoHelp, I do want to address the symptoms of flu that can happen after getting the shot. Those symptoms only happen to a small percentage of people and usually go away within 24 hours. It's usually no more then a light fever and fatigue. The flu shot is not a live vaccine, so it's not possible to get the flu from the shot.

As for getting the flu despite getting the shot, that one's easy to answer. Every year the CDC determines which flu will be most prevalent and they create the vaccine for that strain. Sadly there are too many strains to immunize against. So, you're unlikely to get the strain that you were vaccinated for, but you can still catch another strain.

I once felt like many of you, I refused to get the shot because I wasn't properly informed. Now that I have the information I can say that not only did I get the seasonal flu shot I will be getting the H1N1 shot as well, as will my children.

As for any religious aspects of this, well, think long enough about anything and I'm sure you can find some way to twist it around and blame it on Satan.

Alty, I have to spread the love, but thank you for learning what you have learned your short time back in the workforce. It sure saved me a lot of typing :p

Alty · Oct 27, 2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by J_9

Alty, I have to spread the love, but thank you for learning what you have learned your short time back in the workforce. It sure saved me a lot of typing :p

I have to say that it was very interesting learning about all of this. It definitely put my mind at ease about both vaccines.

Sadly the media is wreaking havoc on this vaccine and many people are buying the hype. Too many people are rejecting the vaccine because of misinformation. Many more people are thinking they don't need to get vaccinated because everyone else is. That's not the case.

When the swine flu first started making the news we were told that it was contained, now I personally know 10 people that have gotten it and I know of one person who lost a loved one because of it. It's foolish not to protect yourself if protection is available.

I'm afraid that many people will probably die needlessly.

J_9 · Oct 27, 2009, 03:17 PM

Alty, I know one person who has died from it and he was the husband of our dead of surgery, he had NO health issues at all... was perfectly healthy. I have also transferred a pregnant patient to a higher level of care recently. She was 33 weeks and was placed on a respirator. I don't know her outcome.

The media frenzy is scaring everyone. Our local Children's hospital has been on the national news as they have lost a few patients and have set up a state-of-the-art pre-screening system.

I had my seasonal flu shot the beginning of October. Last week I got my H1N1 vaccine. No, my arm didn't fall off, nor did it turn green. I simply took 2 Tylenol before the vaccine and 2 more 4 hours later. I am, though, wearing my tin foil hat so that it will interfere with the microchip implanted in my arm. LOL

Alty · Oct 27, 2009, 03:24 PM

J, didn't I send you the tinfoil underwear? It's important to protect every part of your body. ;)

We didn't have the H1N1 shot available until yesterday. I'm sick right now, cough, fever, congestion, so I'll be waiting to get mine, but I got my flu shot the second day that I started working at the clinic. It was a slow day, I was bored, so I filled out my paperwork and got the shot. The nurse that gave me my shot was great, I didn't feel a thing.

My kids school has sent home a pamphlet expressing the importance of getting this immunization for our kids.

Since I have a chance to ask you this and I've been meaning to but keep forgetting, Jared is getting a booster shot this month at school. I don't know what's in the booster, but I would assume it's standard for 5th grade. My question is, does he have to wait to get the flu shot and H1N1 shot?

J_9 · Oct 27, 2009, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Altenweg

I don't know what's in the booster, but I would assume it's standard for 5th grade. My question is, does he have to wait to get the flu shot and H1N1 shot?

Most likely no, but it would depend on what the vaccination is for. One gal I work with got the flu shot in one arm and minutes later the H1N1 in the other arm and she suffered no consequences.

Umm, maybe you have the wrong address 'cause I didn't get the underwear. I still need the socks too. :rolleyes: