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    #21

    Oct 20, 2009, 10:01 PM
    Mnb07040 what kind of light spots are they? Yeah I agree retin-a, aha peels, are among the few that may help. If your only trying to blend the lighter spots on your face, you may not want to depig since this may only add more white spots on your face until you completely depig. My guess would be that once you completely depig you are unable to tan, as your melanocytes cells are then destroyed. You may want to try something milder such as a tyrosinase inhibitor product
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    #22

    Oct 20, 2009, 11:06 PM

    U will never completely depig unless you got vitiligo, look at mj trying so hard and still looking like a total mess under all the makeup.

    Call it quits and do peels to remove the non-viscous crystals embedded in your skin. Since those crystals cause PIH for years unless purged out of your skin
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    #23

    Oct 20, 2009, 11:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Girl View Post
    Mnb07040 what kind of light spots are they? Yeah I agree retin-a, aha peels, are among the few that may help. If your only trying to blend the lighter sopts on your face, you may not want to depig since this may only add more white spots on your face until you completely depig. My guess would be that once you completely depig you are unable to tan, as your melanocytes cells are then destroyed. you may want to try something milder such as a tyrosinase inhibitor product
    Well they're light spots but they're not white.They're about 3-4 shades lighter than the rest of my skin. And what I would like to do is hopefully darken the light spots so it can match the rest of my skin.
    And when you say peels and retin-a may help, do you mean use it on the light spots or the rest of my skin? Cause I thought those things were also meant to lighten skin as well.
    This is the second day I sat in the sun for about 5-10minutes hopeing to lighten the spots I haven't seen much of a difference.
    Needless to say I'm not used to TRYING to gget my skin darker how long do you have to sit in the sun before skin starts to tan? Since the white spots are more light brown instead for white does this mean the melonin can still come back on those spots?

    Thanks for your help
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    #24

    Oct 21, 2009, 08:59 AM
    It's actually rare that those lighter spots darken in comparison to regular skin under UV light. Melanocytes in that area may be damaged, so the tanning process is greatly slowed down, along with melanin production in that area. For myself, Alpha Arbutin seemed to play a role in spreading melanin and evening out the tone, but otherwise, I'd stay out of the Sun (which will cause your skin to darken, but leave the spots light) and allow your skin to recover itself and even out.
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    #25

    Oct 21, 2009, 10:05 AM

    lilgreg1,

    Do you mind sharing where you get your Alpha Arbutin from, thanks
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    #26

    Oct 21, 2009, 04:26 PM

    Phenol peels are actually used on dark skin types to RE-pigment vitligo or chemically depigmented areas or white spots.
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    Oct 21, 2009, 04:37 PM

    There's actually dozens of Alpha Arbutin providers online, easily found with a search on any given search engine. Due to advertising rules, I'd rather not post it here; however query me if you can't manage to find a Alpha Arbutin provider afterwards. It's pretty cheap, and therefore almost every single major provider I've come across was legitimate and provided genuine actives.

    As for phenol peels, I've never in my entire life, heard about it being used for repigmentation, and I doubt it would do so either. It's classified as a deep exfoliate, generally used to treat deep scars and wrinkles. Somewhat contradictory, especially when it comes to exfoliating agents being used to lighten skin nowadays. In any given case, I doubt such a thing would trigger the re-occurance of melanocytes or even promote the production of melanin, in which case it would be saturated in a single area causing melasma-like symptoms.
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    Oct 21, 2009, 05:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by lilgreg1 View Post
    As for phenol peels, I've never in my entire life, heard about it being used for repigmentation, and I doubt it would do so either.

    In any given case, I doubt such a thing would trigger the re-occurance of melanocytes or even promote the production of melanin, in which case it would be saturated in a single area causing melasma-like symptoms.

    Chemical peeling with phenol : for the treatment of stable vitiligo and alopecia areata

    Chemical peeling with 88 percent phenol was carried out on 142 sites of stable vitiligo (hairy-126, non hairy-16) and on 69 sites of alopecia areata (AA). After cleansing and defatting phenol was applied on affected areas till a uniform frost appeared. On healing, all the lesions of vitiligo showed perifollicular pigmentation in hairy areas and perilesional repigmentation in non hairy areas. These were further treated with PUVA/PUVASOL. After the healing 82.5 percent of hairy sites and 81.3 percent of non hairy sites showed repigmentation. In cases of AA, patients developed vellus hair. In AA, 72.5 percent had good regrowth and 27.5 percent had poor response. Side effects seen were hypopigmentation (58 AA), hyperpigmentation (11 AA), persistent erythema (42 vitiligo, 28 AA), demarcation lines (4 AA), secondary bacterial infection (2 vitiligo, 5 AA) and superficial scarring (2 vitiligo, 7AA). The wounding action of phenol is useful to repigment the vitiligo patches and for induction of regrowth of hair in alopecia areata.
    KEYWORDS:
    Vitiligo/TH; Alopecia Areata/TH; Vitiligo/DT; Phenols/TU; Dermabrasion/MT; Autoimmune Diseases/DI; Pigmentation; Cyclosporins; Thymopentin; Hypopigmentation/ET; Erythema/ET; Rejuvenation; Human; Male; Female; Adult; Case Report
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    Record Identifier: NI202797
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    #29

    Oct 21, 2009, 06:17 PM

    Seems like it has more to do with just phenols in general. (PUVA, which is a UV-radiation based treatment). Despite being simply a tested treatment, it doesn't seem like the best of ideas unless you literally have major vitiligo and could care less about the many side effects.
    (hypopigmentation (58 AA), hyperpigmentation (11 AA), persistent erythema (42 vitiligo, 28 AA), demarcation lines (4 AA), secondary bacterial infection (2 vitiligo, 5 AA) and superficial scarring (2 vitiligo, 7AA))
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    #30

    Oct 21, 2009, 06:54 PM

    Indeed, monobenzone is also a phenol that's why normal skin treated with it in any % usually develops dermal hyperpigmentation after the initial period of misleading epidermal lightening.
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    #31

    Oct 21, 2009, 07:43 PM

    Mnb07040 you can try what others have suggested, and if later all else still fails possibly consult a dermatologist.
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    #32

    Oct 21, 2009, 07:46 PM

    Yes don't forget retin-a and other mild peelers will help remove the monobenzone crystals and allow the skin to even out.
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    #33

    Oct 22, 2009, 03:51 AM

    If you leave MONO NOTHING HAPPENS!


    Your body will just repig back the spots... I never got spots from MONo and no lightening either...

    I got one light tiny minuscule marginal white spot on my neck and one on my stomach.. when I discontinued... it filled up with colour in a WEEK !
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    #34

    Oct 23, 2009, 12:05 AM

    I'm not sure how mono works for some people... but I know a girl who had horrendous results very quickly (less than three months)... it depends on your skin... she got the spotty look very quickly and it was super uneven...

    Took two years and some more just to get back even... and her doc said she was lucky... scared me enough to say I won't run the risk...

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