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    #21

    Jul 11, 2009, 08:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Steve:

    Oooh. I didn't know Palin was into Michael Jackson.;)

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    Couric you dimwit, lol.
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    #22

    Jul 11, 2009, 09:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Couric you dimwit, lol.
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, Palin was into Couric? No wonder they couldn't talk.

    Ex
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    #23

    Jul 11, 2009, 09:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, Palin was into Couric? No wonder they couldn't talk.

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    You numbskull, lol.
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    #24

    Jul 11, 2009, 07:33 PM
    His revelation is that maybe he can cash in on Palin's notoriety. Maybe then he can pay some child support.




    G&P
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    #25

    Jul 12, 2009, 01:47 AM

    Joe the plumber. All he did was ask Obama about taxes and the next thing you know ABC reported a judgment lien against him for $1182 in taxes even though "no action has been taken against him outside of filing the lien," and the deputy clerk of his county said that "there is a 99 percent chance [Wurzelbacher] doesn't know about the lien, unless he did a credit report or was ready to pay his taxes."
    And here is the new Joe the Plumber
    Sotomayor backers urge reporters to probe New Haven firefighter | McClatchy
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    #26

    Jul 12, 2009, 04:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    On Friday, citing in an e-mail "Frank Ricci's troubled and litigious work history," the liberal advocacy group People for the American Way drew reporters' attention to Ricci's past. Other advocates for Sotomayor have discreetly urged journalists to pursue similar story lines.
    Yep, people who've done nothing wrong are never targets.
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    Jul 12, 2009, 05:36 AM

    troubled and litigious work history
    The advocates cite other Hartford Courant stories from the same era recounting how Ricci was fired by a fire department in Middletown, Conn. allegedly, Ricci said at the time, because of safety concerns he raised.
    The Middletown-area fire department was subsequently fined for safety violations, but the Connecticut Department of Labor dismissed Ricci's retaliation complaint.
    Yeah he was a real bad apple . He was a whistle blower who was fired for pointing out safety violations .
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    Jul 12, 2009, 02:09 PM

    Interesting that just the other day one poll showed that 75% or the reapondents said they would vote for Palin if she runs for pres.

    The Palin family has my prayers, and, yes, you can bet that I will vote for her if I get the chance. That goes for my wife too!
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    #29

    Jul 12, 2009, 02:12 PM
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    Not a word from McCain on all this. How odd. Something smells really fishy.

    tom,
    People who lead an ethically good life do not get "attacked" by the media. If you feel that the complaints and criticisms all all so undeserved than you've drunk the koolaid. Remember, she was the best that the republican party could bring to the public for VP. Now let's see what happens.
    I don't know how you do it in Canada, but down here, the accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

    If I were on trial, I sure wouldn't want you on my jury!
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    Jul 12, 2009, 02:19 PM

    I don't know she was the best the Republicans could bring,any more than Obama was the best the Dem's could bring.The republicans were just leaning toward a female vise so she was chosen
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    Jul 12, 2009, 02:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by zippit View Post
    i dont know she was the best the Republicans could bring,any more than Obama was the best the Dem's could bring.The republicans were just leaning toward a female vise so she was choosen
    Hello z:

    Well, it's CLEAR that she wasn't chosen for her brains. Her plumbing was sufficient.

    excon

    PS> 75% gal?? Really??
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    Jul 12, 2009, 02:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Interesting that just the other day one poll showed that 75% or the reapondents said they would vote for Palin if she runs for pres.
    A random sampling of the US population? How many people were surveyed?

    Ah. Republican voters were polled (doesn't say how many) --

    Poll: Sarah Palin remains threat to Mitt Romney in potential GOP 2012 race - BostonHerald.com

    Comment on a Google group board --

    The beauty of this one is that only 24% of Americans now define
    themselves as "Republicans" and Palin is not well liked at all by
    independents, who are the crucial voters if the Republicans are to win
    any electoral race.

    So, the poll is predictable, and of not much use.
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    #33

    Jul 12, 2009, 03:07 PM
    Levi whoever is a loser and he has already had more attention than he deserves so let's not give him any more. I'm a conservative but even I am frightened by the thought of the possibility of Sarah Palin becoming president. She is a tool of the religious right and not experienced or intelligent enough to be president. She would make the USA a worldwide joke and even make George W. Bush look good. I'm for Ron Paul, Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney for president.
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    #34

    Jul 12, 2009, 05:13 PM

    I'm thinkig something is going to come out that is going to hurt her politically,some scandal.. shes stepping down to bank before the sh** hits the fan.. just my theory
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    Jul 13, 2009, 06:54 AM

    Former San Francisco mayor Willie Brown has an alternate take on the Palin resignation than the party line and the media meme .
    Sarah Palin, political genius

    The pundits are wrong. Conventional wisdom is wrong. Sarah Palin's decision to step down as Alaska governor was a brilliant move.
    Palin has some of the best political instincts I have ever seen. She became a pop-culture superstar overnight when John McCain made her his veep pick, and she's still second only to President Obama among politicians the public is interested in. Even in liberal San Francisco, she'd be front-page news if she ever came to town.
    But that kind of celebrity comes at a high price. What a lot of people don't know is that Palin entered Alaska politics as a reformer attacking the corruption of the state's Republican establishment. As such, she was the darling of the Democrats - until she hooked up with McCain.
    After the election, with Palin back home but positioning herself for a 2012 presidential run, it was clear she would catch nothing but ridicule from Alaska's Democrats. It was not going to be pretty.
    If Palin wants to play on the national field, she has to be free to move around. She has to be able to drop into Indiana, Ohio or Tennessee and help Republican candidates raise money. She has to be available for radio and TV.
    She has to be like Gavin Newsom, free to roam around the country, safe in the knowledge that things will pretty much take care of themselves back home.
    Instead, Palin faced the prospect of being constantly pinned down in a state that is a day and a half away from the rest of America. She would have been totally isolated in every sense of the word.
    Now she can study up on issues where she is lacking and become a full-time political celebrity.
    The pundits call her a quitter, but let's be honest - the pundits never liked her to begin with. Better to take one hit for stepping down and move on than to stay in Alaska and die a death by a thousand cuts.
    Governor or not, Palin is still the biggest star in the Republican galaxy. After all, who else have they got?
    By her resignation ,she has positioned herself to travel the lower 48 and disrupt the status quo similar to what she did to Alaska politics .
    From her resignation:
    "And so as I thought about this announcement that I wouldn't run for re-election and what it means for Alaska, I thought about how much fun some governors have as lame ducks... travel around the state, to the Lower 48 (maybe), overseas on international trade - as so many politicians do. And then I thought - that's what's wrong - many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and 'milk it.' I'm not putting Alaska through that - I promised efficiencies and effectiveness! That's not how I am wired. I am not wired to operate under the same old 'politics as usual.' I promised that four years ago - and I meant it."

    And just like in Alaska ;she will have the Republicans in her crosshairs as well as the Dems.
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    #36

    Jul 13, 2009, 07:03 AM
    She's a star all right... but for all the wrong reasons.

    Here's another take on it:
    Disaster is often followed by recrimination, a bitter aspect of human nature that can be observed among the Republicans as the Sarah Palin fiasco continues to unfold. The Alaska governor's surprise resignation, amid negative press coverage in Vanity Fair and elsewhere, suddenly revived dormant feuding among campaign operatives and conservative media figures -- notably between Steve Schmidt, the former campaign manager, and Bill Kristol, the Weekly Standard editor and Fox News commentator.

    The latest eruptions from Kristol, Schmidt and all the lesser actors in the Republican reality show echo similar complaints from the closing days of the campaign last fall, when they were blaming each other for the obvious mistake of Palin's nomination. Back then, Schmidt and other top figures in the McCain orbit -- including lobbyists Rick Davis and Charles Black and speechwriter Mark Salter -- started to seek distance from the Wasilla phenomenon as soon as they realized that their ticket was going to lose the election, and that her nomination might well be counted among the reasons. In assigning responsibility for impending doom, these gentlemen criticized not only Palin herself but her cheerleaders on the right, the most vocal of whom had been Kristol.

    But in late October 2008, the New York Times Sunday Magazine published an extraordinary and timely story that explained exactly how McCain had come to select Palin. According to that article, Schmidt had collaborated with Davis and Salter to promote Palin over several more qualified candidates -- after a cursory background investigation that revealed almost nothing about her lack of knowledge, bizarre official conduct, and narcissistic temperament. When the three insiders presented her to a smitten, impetuous McCain, he accepted their judgment, ratified by Charlie Black, one of the most experienced Republican operatives in Washington, who told him that if he chose her, he might win -- and otherwise he would surely lose.

    "Her selection came after a six-month-long, rigorous vetting process where her extraordinary credentials and exceptionalism became clear," he barked. "This vetting controversy is a faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee for vice president of the United States who has never been a part of the old boys' network that has come to dominate the news establishment in this country."

    Schmidt was lying -- about the process, about her credentials, about the confidence he and his cronies supposedly had in her, and about the media questions that he knew to be legitimate.

    Rarely is anyone in Washington, from politicians to operatives to journalists, held accountable for the damage they inflict on the body politic. Those who banged the drum for disastrous war flit from one editorial page to the next; those who insisted on ruinous deregulation return as economic advisors to the president. The men who told us that Sarah Palin should be next in line of succession to the presidency may quarrel among themselves now, but they will all be back with yet more stupid advice -- and we can only blame ourselves if we listen.
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    #37

    Jul 13, 2009, 07:10 AM

    Hello tom:

    Sara Palin is dumb. I don't know WHY the righty's want another dummy. I don't think they're too happy with the last one they had. Why do they want to do it again?? Silly righty's.

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    #38

    Jul 13, 2009, 07:10 AM

    A lot can be said about the McCain loss . It is clear that the Palin selection was NOT the reason for his loss. In fact,the high water mark came with her selection.
    The main reason he lost was his less than Presidential reaction to the economic crisis.
    Palin's campaign stops were exciting events and only trailed Obama's in attendance. She outdrew McCain . She also cleaned Biden's clock in the VP debate . She was an asset to the McCain campaign.
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    #39

    Jul 13, 2009, 07:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    She also cleaned Biden's clock in the VP debate .
    Sure she did. LOL!

    Who Won VP Debate: A Review of Polls with October 3 pm update | Midwest Voices
    Who won the VP debate: Palin or Joe Biden? - Telegraph
    Who Won Tonight's Vice-Presidential Debate?

    Tom, give it up, it's embarrassing.
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    #40

    Jul 13, 2009, 07:19 AM

    Sara Palin is dumb.
    Yeah imagine how smart she would sound with a team of speech writers and surrounded by teleprompters.

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