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Oct 15, 2008, 05:03 AM
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 Originally Posted by BABRAM
We just discussed the older woman that didn't like Obama because she thought he was an Arab. Pull your head out. ;)
One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?
That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect.
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Oct 15, 2008, 01:01 PM
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Oct 15, 2008, 02:19 PM
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Steve, you do this to yourself all the time.
Here's a direct quote from you...
 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?
Obviously she is not. BTW it was her stupid prejudice statement that got her recognized, not asking a question. Now if I didn't give you a few extra sources, you'd just k'vetch that it was unreliable information. You do more good for the Obama campaign than you realize. Barack should be sending you a check for all the help you constantly provide him.
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Oct 15, 2008, 03:18 PM
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Bobby, if you wouldn't move the goal post on every play you might be able to keep up.
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Oct 15, 2008, 04:27 PM
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Steve, do you have attention deficit disorder, or is it hypertension? Look at what just transpired:
 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?
I answered with a several links in recent news. You were mistaken.
In reply you then chose to post a few links concerning idiots against McCain/Palin that have taken it too personal. Now who moved the goal posts? How hyprocitical of you once again. If you want to skip talking about the prejudices of some McCain supporters in their ignorance against Obama, that's fine. Just let me know. I'm up for any discussion. Just say so! But don't lie and say I moved the goal posts. Stop asking people questions if you don't want to hear the facts.
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Oct 15, 2008, 08:44 PM
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 Originally Posted by BABRAM
Steve, do you have attention deficit disorder, or is it hypertension?
Still with the personal attacks and avoidance of the facts which show my memory is just fine. The challenge to you was and still is to prove your outrageous claim:
" That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect."
It's very simple Bobby, neither one woman asking a stupid question (or making a stupid statement or whatever) or repeated references to the same few morons proves your claim that McCain set up these "timely outbursts" for "that whole week" or for any time at all. You expect us to believe that McCain would purposely stage idiotic BS like that - as if it would somehow benefit him no less - in spite of the fact that he repudiated these people to the boos of some in the crowd. How gullible do you really think we are, Bobby?
You can get your panties in a wad and take your pathetic cheap shots at me and every other conservative around all you want, it just puts you in the same category as the eleven distinctly different disturbing examples of hatred, intolerance, arrogance and bigotry from the left I've referred to here. You can have the three idiots you're complaining about, too... you all make a really nice match.
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Oct 16, 2008, 10:06 AM
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Here's one of your claims refuted:
Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded
By Andrew M. Seder
Staff Writer
SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.
The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him."
News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.
Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.
“I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune.
He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton.
Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell “kill him.”
“We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.”
Hackett said he did not hear the remark.
Slavoski said Singleton was interviewed Wednesday and stood by his story but couldn’t give a description of the man because he didn’t see him he only heard him.
When contacted Wednesday afternoon, Singleton referred questions to Times-Tribune Metro Editor Jeff Sonderman. Sonderman said, “We stand by the story. The facts reported are true and that’s really all there is.”
Slavoski said the agents take such threats or comments seriously and immediately opened an investigation but after due diligence “as far as we’re concerned it’s closed unless someone comes forward.” He urged anyone with knowledge of the alleged incident to call him at 346-5781. “We’ll run at all leads,” he said.
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Oct 16, 2008, 11:42 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
LOLOL, you really, really must think we're stupid. Neither the quantity of reports or angry exclamation marks above the video make it true. The first link from Democracy Now claimed it was so. The second from that moonbat Rhandi Rhodes, started with "and there is no audio of this." The third said "there have been reports." Well guess what NK, the Secret Service refuted the reports. It's really very simple.
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Oct 16, 2008, 11:50 AM
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Well if the secret service said it never happened then I'm glad.
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Oct 16, 2008, 11:51 AM
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The reports of vile, hate filled Obama supporters I listed here and here are true. As are these images of the " elevated political discourse" from Obama supporters at a Palin rally in California:
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Oct 16, 2008, 12:21 PM
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Do we have to play the "who can post the most images" contest Steve? 'Cause I can fill this thread up with images of vile, hate filled McCain supporters.
Geez dude, let go of your anger towards half the world.
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Oct 16, 2008, 12:48 PM
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Someone yelling out "Kill him" or "off with his head" are not along the same lines with "we need smart not pretty" or I vote with my brain not my V****.
I have been to a few Obama rallies now going back to the primaries (matter of fact I was part of the 60,000 in Philly last weekend) and I have Never heard a single person yell out kill Palin or Off with McCain's head or anything remotely near that type of hate. And to be honest I was waiting for it since it is Philadelphia were are FAR from the nicest people in the world.
There was even a guy Holding a McCain Palin sign and the only thing anyone said to him was Vote Obama.
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Oct 16, 2008, 01:09 PM
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Oct 16, 2008, 01:29 PM
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Spitvenom, I'm with you. I went to an Obama rally of about 20,000 in the south and there were two dudes holding McCain signs and everyone sort of pretended they were... invisible. It was great.
I think that the greater point, though, is that history has had its share of lynch mobs and witch hunts. We have seen what happens when a largely uneducated mob gets together under the assumption that they are being "had" especially if it's by a person who looks different or whose name is different. Sarah Palin's rhetoric and false accusations are going to end up getting someone killed. All of you (Tom-- we've talked before :) who are batting for the republicans keep putting up examples of satiric art and people with signs that would normally appear at any political rally and crowds yelling Boo (scary!). What's going on at the Republican gatherings is quite a different animal because there is a growing racist sentiment by folks who think their violence is justified by God and that an act of violence would be seen as an act of patriotism not to mention that a good many of them have their own private arsenal of handguns and shotguns to carry out said violence.
Honestly, my stomach is feeling a little nervous for Obama's safety. I see him as the only hope for the American people right now. McCain did well to repudiate the woman's statement-- even though he was booed by his own crowd. But Sarah Palin on the other hand is proving just as deplorable as she is ignorant. She is an embarrassment to our country.
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Oct 16, 2008, 02:06 PM
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[QUOTE=NeedKarma;1324786]
 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Geez dude, let go of your anger towards half the world.
Another nice – but futile - attempt at turning the tables on me, NK. I am not the one expressing anger…it’s in the images and references I provided of Obama supporters displaying their bigotry, intolerance and hatred. I’m not the one calling Palin a c**t and frantically spreading unfounded rumors of McCain supporters shouting “kill him!!!!!”
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Oct 16, 2008, 02:09 PM
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 Originally Posted by spitvenom
Nobody said it was “along the same lines.” But my examples are fact and not fiction…just a minor difference.
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Oct 16, 2008, 02:12 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I’m not the one calling Palin a c**t
As I mentioned earlied your fearless leader McCain calls his wife that and you don't "repudiate" (McCain's new big word) it.
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Oct 16, 2008, 02:17 PM
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 Originally Posted by spitvenom
Which of us among you do you think would ever approve of that? I don't, it was at the least irresponsible, but reading the account you provided hardly falls under the category of "real hate." She took responsibility and apologized, what else do you want? Should I continue to hammer Jack Murtha for calling the western half of his state racist?
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