[purplewings]

[QUOTE=sGt HarDKorE]
“I’m sure that Senator Obama could have made no better use of his time than to meet with our men and women in uniform there,” Michael J. Durant, a retired Army soldier, said in a statement released by the McCain campaign. “That Barack Obama believes otherwise casts serious doubt on his judgment and calls into question his priorities.”

Mr. Durant said the stop “was canceled after it became clear that campaign staff and the traveling press corps would not be allowed to accompany Senator Obama.”

“That triggered then a concern that maybe our visit was going to be perceived as political, and the last thing that I want to do is have injured soldiers and the staff at these wonderful institutions having to sort through whether this is political or not or get caught in the crossfire between campaigns,” Mr. Obama said. “So rather than go forward and potentially get caught up in what might have been considered a political controversy of some sort, what we decided was that we not make a visit and instead I would call some of the troops that were there.”

***I think this makes Obama look really bad. Does he really expect people to believe he didn't go visit the soldiers because he didn't want them to be involved in the political frey?? OMG! That's the most stupid justification I've ever heard from anyone over 12.

If he'd wanted to go, he certainly could have done it. Why would he have to have a volunteer with him for that?


Wondergirl - I don't know if you read this article or not, but it certainly doesn't make me feel that Obama cared about anything other than the good press he could get back home.

[Wondergirl]

Wondergirl - I don't know if you read this article or not, but it certainly doesn't make me feel that Obama cared about anything other than the good press he could get back home.

I have no doubt you are totally misunderstanding the situation.

[sGt HarDKorE]

Why does everything a famous person does that is good is just for press attention?

If it was for press attention, don't you think he would have gone to get good press ?

[purplewings]

I have no doubt you are totally misunderstanding the situation.

Perhaps. I did read the letter and my understanding of this language has always gotten me high grades. Will you explain what I've misunderstood?

[Wondergirl]

Perhaps. I did read the letter and my understanding of this language has always gotten me high grades. Will you explain what I've misunderstood?

It has nothing to do with the fact that you a smart, lively, lovely woman. I've known you for years and know you have a gift for language and for expressing yourself. That's not the issue. You have chosen to interpret the situation and communication as having occurred one way. I choose to interpret them differently.

[tandemsforus]

I am having a problem here. A serious problem I would like for you guys and gals to answer for me.
You are arguing about a candidate looking for positive press coverage. Of course Obama was looking for positive press coverage. So does McCain. They both do! Every stop, every time they step in front of the camera. What's the big deal. A schedule gets changed, a letter gets written and we act as if he turned his back on christ. We bicker about if Obama is a christen (this country does have a separation of church and state right?) is McCain to old, are they wearing that all necessary lapel pin, and is it on the correct side. Ask me if I give a flying well you know what.
But what I DO care about from the candidate ,from the press covering the candidate, the people here on this site is about the ISSUES! Where do they stand on the issues and what do they plan to do about them, Not 30 second lip service answers, real answers to REAL problems this country is facing.
What about a war going on for 7 years now, shouldn't that matter a bit more than if a candidate did or did not shake a few hands. I bet there are about 3000 families of our dead soldiers that might just think so.
Our economy, shouldn't that be just a bit more important than did he shake or not shake a few hands? Our dollar dropping in value. The fuel crises we got ourselves into seems to have a higher priority than a few hand shakes. Our NATIONAL debt. Should that take a back seat to Obamas shaking hands. Over 44 million AMERICANS that have no or totally inadequate health coverage! Health related issues are the number 1 cause for bankruptcy in this country. But the shaking or not a few hands is more important than that! Is this what I am reading here?
We must, as informed americans, know the facts, of what it will require to get our great country back where it belongs. The leader in democracy not the laughing stock. Its our duty, and we are failing that duty. Why, because we can't stop bickering about totally worthless bits of misinformation.
Now I'm off my soapbox

[purplewings]

Lol If that's the kind of question you like, go post it yourself. Why discuss what the candidates promise to do when a candidate almost never does what he promises once he's in office? Plus, which candidate will get into office? First things first, my friend.

These are fun questions and comments, but I think if you look back over the past weeks, you'll find the other kind of question is there too.

[sGt HarDKorE]

If you want to know what the candidates stand for, go to their websites. I don't know about mccains as I support obama, but I read obamas plans and it made me like him more, now if only I could vote

[excon]

Hello again, Sky:

You know, I find it funny, that you rightwingers this Obama for not visiting the troops...

But, you don't this the dufus in chief for not giving them body armor, for not giving them up armored Humvees, for not giving them a clean hospital to recover in, for voting against the GI Bill (which McSame just did), and for extending their tours of duty...

I don't know what's more important to a soldier... a visit from a politician, or something that'll stop a bullet aimed at your head... Maybe you can tell me, Sky.

excon

[progunr]

Hello again, Sky:

You know, I find it funny, that you rightwingers dis Obama for not visiting the troops...

But, you don't dis the dufus in chief for not giving them body armor, for not giving them up armored Humvees, for not giving them a clean hospital to recover in, for voting against the GI Bill (which McSame just did), and for extending their tours of duty....

I dunno what's more important to a soldier... a visit from a politician, or something that'll stop a bullet aimed at your head... Maybe you can tell me, Sky.

excon

Cmon' ex,

You KNOW it was the Libs/Dems that tried to block the funding for the troops, Not George Bush or any of the Republicans.

You got to do better than that.

[sGt HarDKorE]

When they talked about reducing spending, they didn't mean cutting troops funds. They wanted troops removed which would allow money to be reduced in spending.

And the republicans wanted to spend 190 billion dollars more on the war instead of putting that money to children's health insurance.



Most in Poll Want War Funding Cut - washingtonpost.com

[tandemsforus]

Hi
You say I should post my own question, Your right I should, good answer. Now my point, we argue, bicker about such trivial things, it takes away from the real issues. I guess I'm disappointed in the press the most. Some of the questions asked during the primaries were so ridiculous as to be insulting. And then these boards repeat them. Is Obama an elitist? Where did that come from, an original thought from this board? No just repeating what is heard from the press and talking heads on TV and radio. And that's the problem, the press gives us trash and we take it and run. A statement is told over the airwaves, it is proven to be false, but is repeated over and over. So why can't we put trash where it belongs, in the trash can!

[sGt HarDKorE]

I agree with you. People harassed obama because he didn't bowl well. What does that have to do with being president? Why do people care how well he bowls. A lot of people try to find the bad in people for w/e reason and/or make up stupid beliefs of what will occur because of someone's actions today, Such as bowling...

[progunr]

why does everything a famous person does that is good is just for press attention?

If it was for press attention, don't you think he would have gone to get good press ?

You've obviously missed the point, let me help you out here.

He didn't go, because he COULD NOT take his press and media groupies with him.

No photo ops, no posing with the wounded troops, no audio, no campaign advisor's, just the Senator.

That's right, the "Senator" could have visited the troops but the "candidate" could not.

That is why he played basketball, instead of paying his respects to the men, fighting for his right to run for President in the first place.

[Wondergirl]

And thats the problem, the press gives us trash and we take it and run. A statement is told over the airwaves, it is proven to be false, but is repeated over and over. So why can't we put trash where it belongs, in the trash can!

In today's Chicago Sun-Times, Christopher Hitchens said almost the same thing:

"I took this up with the late Tim Russert, who shrugged a bit and added that [whatever] line of the evening swiftly becomes the agreed headline among those who decide these things. Really, there are times one is ashamed to be in the [journalism] profession."

[progunr]

I don't know about the journalist's being ashamed, those that lean so far to the left have no morals or values anyway.

If you don't possess any morals or values, you really can't be ashamed, can you?

He canceled his visit, AFTER he found out his campaign and press groupies could not go with him.

Where has this been "proven" to be false? Just because Obama says it is?

The facts support this decision, and the timing of it, so I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish in stating that it was a lie told by the press?

[Wondergirl]

He canceled his visit, AFTER he found out his campaign and press groupies could not go with him.

Where has this been "proven" to be false? Just because Obama says it is?

What would you believe? Should I get dates and times from Obama's campaign office? From the White House? Give me a little help here.

[progunr]

What would you believe? Should I get dates and times from Obama's campaign office? from the White House? Give me a little help here.

You're joking, right?

You want me to believe anything from his campaign office?

It was a last minute change of plans, they were ready for him to arrive, when they were told he would not be showing up.

[Wondergirl]

You're joking, right?

You want me to believe anything from his campaign office?

It was a last minute change of plans, they were ready for him to arrive, when they were told he would not be showing up.

Because he had been told it would turn into a media event... and do you know where "this place" was, where he was to appear??

Guess I got to call Laura now.

[purplewings]

hi
You say I should post my own question, Your right I should, good answer. Now my point, we argue, bicker about such trivial things, it takes away from the real issues. I guess I'm disappointed in the press the most. Some of the questions asked during the primaries were so ridiculous as to be insulting. And then these boards repeat them. Is Obama an elitist? Where did that come from, an original thought from this board? No just repeating what is heard from the press and talking heads on tv and radio. And thats the problem, the press gives us trash and we take it and run. A statement is told over the airwaves, it is proven to be false, but is repeated over and over. So why can't we put trash where it belongs, in the trash can!

You're basically right that we spend time debating things that can't be proven one way or another, but what else would we do here if we all agreed on everything? How boring would that be??

Also - What one person considers trivial, another might consider important when it comes to electing someone to the highest position in this country. It doesn't hurt to exchange what we believe through what we've heard on the news or read at different sites. That's how we learn isn't it?

Personally, I've never heard of Barack Obama before this election. With our country in such an awful condition right now, I think it will be real tough even for a seasoned politician to bring it back to near what it once was. I'm sure it will never be the same as before 9-11.

I actually don't care for either candidate based on all that I've read about each. If the third party candidates weren't kept such a secret by the press, it would give people like me another option - but I won't vote for someone that is practically unknown instead of voting for the one I 'hope' will be able to bring America some peace.