[NeedKarma]

Can't help themselves from what, having an opinion? Who could have predicted?

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-...ml#post1154158
For the challenged.

[speechlesstx]

Ben, both sides get such a slating. Seriously, have you heard much of anything good about conservatives in the past 8 years? We have one guest here who can't seem to speak to us without using the words "fascist," "haters" and "liars." After all the names I've been called the past 8 years I find it hard to have sympathy for any slating that liberals have been subjected to.

One thing your definition states is that "liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity" which is one the main areas in which I find justification in criticism of the left. I find it difficult to reconcile liberalism standing for individual rights when they want to take away my constitutional right to own a gun and protect my family and my property, my right to say something they may find offensive or as Hillary said during the primaries, "We're going to take things away from you for the common good."

I find it difficult to reconcile that liberalism stands for "equality of opportunity" while discriminating against conservative, Christian and pro-life groups on college campuses, enforcing speech codes and suppressing ideas and opinions that differ from their own. These are some of the reasons I give the left a good slating - that and the thin skin they so often display.

[speechlesstx]

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-...ml#post1154158
for the challenged.

How does that explain your "I told you so" after tom's more than reasonable post?

[NeedKarma]

How does that explain your "I told you so" after tom's more than reasonable post?

Well I said:

The extreme sides of both are will get bandied about here as an excuse to demean the other side; this happened form the very first post here. Is there any way to answer this without insulting those of the 'other faith'

And then Tom said:

This to me is the prototypical example of the liberal mentality. If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And If it stops moving,. subsidize it.

Does that not try to demean the other side to you? Do people really try to tax anything that moves? Birds? Toys?

[N0help4u]

Global warming --the bottom agenda is to now charge us for a carbon sticker along side the
Emissions sticker. Just ONE example so yes I have to agree with Tomder
Another -charging for a permit to barb que in our own backyard
Another -sin tax for drinking

[speechlesstx]

Does that not try to demean the other side to you? Do people really try to tax anything that moves? Birds? Toys?

LOL, hardly. It was a quote from Ronald Reagan who had a sense of humor, apparently unlike the left.

[excon]

Hello CB:

Back in about 1985, the word liberal meant what you, CB, say it does. Then Rush Limbaugh came upon the scene. He, all by himself, turned "liberal" into a dirty word. Shortly thereafter, others of his ilk tried to outrightwing the limp one, and were quite successful for a time.

Did the liberals fight back?? Nahhh. But, it's worse than that. Not only did they lay down, they lent credence to the drug addled one by changing their name to "progressive"... Even today, liberals are afraid to admit it.

That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. Yeah, I know the thread is old, but I just found it and wanted to pontificate a bit.

excon

[George_1950]

Hello CB:
Back in about 1985, the word liberal meant what you, CB, say it does. Then Rush Limbaugh came upon the scene. He, all by himself, turned "liberal" into a dirty word. Shortly thereafter, others of his ilk tried to outrightwing the limp one, and were quite successful for a time.
That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. Yeah, I know the thread is old, but I just found it and wanted to pontificate a bit.

excon

Now this is funny, excon; you are the guy always recommending buying gold. If I were to ask, who is the most famous liberal, what would you say? Why, FDR, of course. This most famous of American 'liberals' made possession and use of gold illegal in the 'Land of the Free, Home of the Brave'. "On April 5, 1933, Roosevelt commanded all citizens to surrender their gold to the government. No citizen was permitted to own more than $100 in gold coins, except for rare coins with special value for collectors." What is 'liberal' about that? FDR made 'freedom' illegal. BOVARD » The Great Gold Robbery