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Dec 18, 2007, 08:23 AM
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 Originally Posted by ETWolverine
The guy who said "I wonder whether his father spent enough time with him."
Elliot
Ah. Kingj said "Everybody" so I was confused. It's actually one person.
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Dec 18, 2007, 08:56 AM
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Perhaps I over-generalized while under-explaining.
It seems that whenever an event like this occurs, the media and hand-wringing social limp-wrists are fluttering about seeking whom they may blame while completely disregarding the concept that this was a deliberate choice carried out by one person.
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Dec 18, 2007, 10:24 AM
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 Originally Posted by kindj
social limp-wrists
You don't like gay people either?
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Dec 18, 2007, 10:41 AM
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Perhaps it's different in different places. When I was coming up, a "limp-wrist" referred to one who lacked the intestinal and/or testicular fortitude to stand up and take action--ANY action--on anything. They are much better at talking while people are being hurt, oppressed, or killed, then stand around and "Monday-morning quarterback" every decision that was made by those who did find the strength to act.
As an aside: while I don't condone the homosexual lifestyle, I bear no personal grudge or vendetta against those who--for whatever reason--are homosexual.
Before any questioning comments arise, this is a great time to say that my oldest son is gay, and he and I get along quite well...
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Dec 18, 2007, 11:43 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Sucks to live where you guys live. :)
I love where I live, thank you.
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Dec 18, 2007, 11:53 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Interesting, your God is a gun-toting killer. I knew it!
That's why I don't believe in such nonsense, you guys attribute what you want to your god to make you feel happy. Well if that's what you need in life then go ahead I guess, just don't bother the rest of us please, just kill each other.
NK, God doesn't need a gun... but I think it a far more loving thing to do to prevent the death of innocents by shooting an intruder bearing an assault rifle, handguns and 1000 rounds of ammunition that's opened fire than to ask him if he'd like to talk it over.
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Dec 18, 2007, 11:55 AM
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I was referring to the other posts that mentioned which gun god loves to use.
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Dec 18, 2007, 12:10 PM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I was referring to the other posts that mentioned which gun god loves to use.
Ah, seems He prefers floods, plagues, earthquakes, bows and swords.
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Dec 18, 2007, 12:13 PM
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I prefer the "there is no god" approach myself.
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Dec 18, 2007, 12:15 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
...bows and swords.
I like bows and swords, too.
I just don't bring them to a gunfight!
****Disclaimer for any heretofore unseen nit-pickers that might be lurking around: Then again, I'm obviously not God, nor was I suggesting that by use of a firearm I could defeat a sword-bearing God. The above was simply some black and twisted humor, and not meant to be taken literally, out of context, or twisted around in any manner whatsoever.****
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Dec 18, 2007, 01:44 PM
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It is simple:
There is a God
He states that there is good and evil, a war so to speak.
Love " does not delight in evil"
Shooting innocent strangers at a church , a mall etc.. Is evil
The righteous, just, loving thing is to stand up to evil. That is kill the murderer before they kill more people.
Having never been shot at myself, thankfully, I would hope that if I was armed and in that particular circumstance, I would have the courage to face up to evil.
And not be trying to justify the motives of the murderer as other people or myself were being killed.
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Dec 18, 2007, 01:49 PM
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I'm curious NK:
If you were in a public place, with your family, and you had a gun, and someone was shooting at you and your family,
What would you do? Would you waste time wondering if the gunman was to close to his mother, had a distant father, was poor, got dumped, did not make the team? etc...
Even Darwin would say shoot the b.st.rd - survival of the fittest.
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Dec 18, 2007, 02:18 PM
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Ah, but NK wouldn't be caught dead with a gun. (He might be caught dead without one, but that's another matter... ) So that issue would never come up.
If confronted by a gun-toting maniac, NK would likely do one of two things:
1) Run/hide--- nothing wrong with that. Discretion IS the better part of valor.
2) Be shot.
For him there really are no other choices.
For one who is armed, a third posibility opens up... the posibility of defending oneself. The possibility of killing the other guy before he kills you. The possibility of surviving is Run/Hide doesn't work. The possibility of stopping the killer before he shoots someone else for whom Run/Hide didn't work.
And that is the point of being armed... to open up new avenues for survival that don't exist for the unarmed person.
Elliot
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Dec 18, 2007, 02:40 PM
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An oldie, but a goodie:
Question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner and is running at you while screaming obscenities. In your hand is a Glock 40 and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?
Liberal Answer:
Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that is inspiring him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.
Conservative Answer:
BANG!
Texan's Answer:
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click... (sounds of magazine being ejected and fresh magazine installed)
Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving, what do you kids think?"
Son: "Mom's right Dad, I saw it too..."
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy!"
And that's a LIBERAL Texan family. If they'd been conservative, the whole family would've opened fire.
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Dec 18, 2007, 03:19 PM
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Dennis,
Shame on you. Even a non-Texan like myself knows you always go for the double-tap.
So the correct conservative answer is: "Bang-Bang", not "Bang."
As far as the Texan answer that I would expect...
"FIRE IN THE HOLE" ---- BOOM.
Or how about this...
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Neighbor: Hey, Bill, you want a hand with that?
Dad: Thanks, George.
Neighbor (to other neighbors): Hey guys, check this out...
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BOOM! Rattatatatatatatatat! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BRAAAAAAPPPPP! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BAM! BANG! BANG! BANG!BANG! Rattatatatatatatatat! BANG! BANG! BANG! (chick-chok) BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BRAAAAAAPPPPP! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BOOM! Rattatatatatatatatat! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BRAAAAAAPPPPP! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BAM! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Rattatatatatatatatat! BANG! BANG! BANG! (chick-chok) BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BRAAAAAAPPPPP! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BOOM! Rattatatatatatatatat! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BRAAAAAAPPPPP! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BAM! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Rattatatatatatatatat! BANG! BANG! BANG! (chick-chok) BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BRAAAAAAPPPPP!
Dad: Whoa there guys. That's enough.
Daughter: Ewwww! Messy!
Son: Yeah, but cool!
Mom: I'll get the bucket and squeegy. You pick up the cartriges.
But hey, what do I know?
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Dec 18, 2007, 03:28 PM
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Or better yet!:
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Dec 18, 2007, 03:32 PM
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Yeah that is what it could have been if Jeanne Assam did not intervene.
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Dec 18, 2007, 03:34 PM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Or better yet!:
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BOOM! Rattatatatatatatatat! ...
Actually, Texans are much more efficient and conservative with their ammo. It's people like VP's from Wyoming you need to watch out for :D
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Dec 19, 2007, 07:26 AM
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NK,
And the problem with that is..
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