[lobrobster]

But I believe that the only evidence needed is the Constitution's guarantee of freedom of religion.

Well this says it all. If you've said this before I either missed it or overlooked it (probably because I was too busy with something else you said that I didn't agree with :D )

Anyway, good luck with that. I highly doubt your constitutional rights are being violated here. As it is, your kids are free to pray in school all they want. They just can't organize and do so in a public institution on the tax payer's dollar. That sound perfectly right to me.

But obviously you feel differently and have every right to challenge it. I just sincerely hope you lose and am reasonably sure you will. I really have nothing more to say on this.

[N0help4u]

Spanking is still done by many schools in the USA but maybe your school choose not to spank.
Schools prayed up until 1968.
Kids are worse now than they were back in the 60's, 70's and 80's
Back then parents wouldn't have dreamed of taking their kid to the psych
Now it is estimated 1.75 million USA children take psych meds, if kids were like kids of the 60's they would have N0 need of these meds. Until you have a ADHD child you have no idea what a mother goes through in dealing with it.
It is way worse than the 'expert' child psychologists on daytime TV portray it! They make it out like all you have to do is discipline. It is a far more serious problem and I know it has to be in part a chemical and nutritional imbalance.

Also the founding fathers were deist, Christian, etc... but they DID have some form of religious belief in a supreme being and their desire was freedom for people's religious choices. They left England because the Queen wanted to dictate THE religion for people.
The founding fathers wanted freedom to worship as each person sees fit. As others said
When there was pray in school if you didn't believe in the Christian God you had that time to say your own prayer or not say any prayer. The one kid next to me was Jewish and said a Jewish prayer.

You are right chools are not allowed to prevent Christians from having their clubs or praying, etc... They are allowed to but they aren't allowed to do it on school time.

ACLJ ; American Center for Law & Justice

[inthebox]

Lobrobster - subtle name - I can hear the B 52s - anyway...



agree as Kindj posted on page 2

I have to add that my parents sent me to parochial elementary schools because they valued, and I am thankful for, a religious education. That is putting money where your mouth is.

I went to an all boys Catholic HS, class of 83. I can guarantee you, even though this is just one example, that compared to my local public high school, the high school I went to did better academically [ graduation rate, college bound rate, % going to ivy league schools, % professional alumni] and athletically. There was prayer, even mass, and yes corporal punishment.

And more props to my parents, they set the example by praying at home.