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J_9 · Jan 1, 2010, 11:20 PM

I'm sorry you had to go through this, but there are procedures we have to follow. It takes time, and if the patient is not willing to wait the time and help us out, it can get hard.

excon · Jan 2, 2010, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by pawster1

In my book that is assault even if the law does or does not state it is. I was very rational though I just wanted to leave.

Hello paw:

It might have been. Call the cops, and then hire a lawyer.

excon

pawster1 · Jan 2, 2010, 08:56 AM

I fealt as though I was being held hostage or was in jail having to ask when I can or cannot leave. Being spoken to like a child, being told what to do when and where. Pour pain management. Among a other things. I completely understand the liability issue the hospital has though does it really take 13 hours to get an AMA? Regardless of the time, they can't psychically lay their hands on me or restrain me in any way. Can they? Disgruntled EMT,
~Pawster1

pawster1 · Jan 2, 2010, 08:59 AM

This has been a month ago this past Thanksgiving. To still be thinking about the issue means to me there is something wrong with this whole picture.

excon · Jan 2, 2010, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by pawster1

This has been a month ago this past Thanksgiving. To still be thinking about the issue means to me there is something wrong with this whole picture.

Hello again, p:

Apparently, you're a TALKER, and not a DOER. That's cool. We'll TALK all day.

excon

Fr_Chuck · Jan 2, 2010, 09:16 AM

Well it depends if your medical condition requires you to be restrained, we restrain patients every day, arm straps, leg and feet straps, chest straps, we have have straps that have locks on them to keep a patient from standing up and hurting thierself.

In some of our wards, the doors are secured and you need a code to get out the doors.

J_9 · Jan 2, 2010, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

well it depends if your medical condition requires you to be restrained, we restrain patients every day, arm straps, leg and feet straps, chest straps, we have have straps that have locks on them to keep a patient from standing up and hurting thierself.

This is with a doctor's order only. Without an order this is assault and battery.

Fr_Chuck · Jan 2, 2010, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by J_9

That is assault if the nurse, male OR female, laid his/her hands on you in that manner.

The hospital police aren't actually police, they are simply security guards. There must be more to this if they got security involved.

Depends on the hospital, many of the larger hospitals in Atlanta, the hosital police are "real" police the state issued them the right to have police just like a city or college has the right. Here in atlanta, at least 3 of our hospitals have real police not security guards.

excon · Jan 2, 2010, 09:30 AM

Hello again:

In terms of what they did, In my view, it doesn't matter whether they were REAL cops or just pretend. I have heard of REAL cops overstepping their boundary's. Haven't you?

excon

Fr_Chuck · Jan 2, 2010, 09:36 AM

But I have a lot of issues with the entie story, first a police officer would not have been standing by her door the entire time, why did they not merely just walk out if they were not getting anywhere and really wanted to leave. If this was not "in patient" they were in the ER then,

excon · Jan 2, 2010, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

But I have alot of issues with the entie story,

Hello again, Padre:

We're on the same page.

excon

pawster1 · Jan 2, 2010, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

But I have alot of issues with the entie story, first a police officer would not have been standing by her door the entire time, why did they not merley just walk out if they were not getting anywhere and really wanted to leave. If this was not "in patient" they were in the ER then,

An officer was called, not standing there the entire time also it was voluntary inpatient not the ER.