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    #21

    Jan 9, 2017, 02:26 PM
    How early on is early on ?

    This is as recent as 2015.

    Did Obama just say he’s a Muslim (again)?
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    #22

    Jan 9, 2017, 02:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post

    You did not answer where Obama "admitted" (your word) that he is a Muslim. Care to answer that one?
    Do your own research I have done mine

    https://youtu.be/tCAffMSWSzY

    Saleem alilikum is a greeting between Muslims, Christians don't use it, the first thing a Muslim will do is greet you in this way as a recognition signal in the Muslim world
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    #23

    Jan 9, 2017, 02:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    How early on is early on ?

    This is as recent as 2015.

    Did Obama just say he’s a Muslim (again)?
    Ha, ha. You're joking, right? It might be a fun thing to watch the ENTIRE speech and note how he uses "we" and what its antecedent is --

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ckQb12MqUTY

    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Do your own research I have done mine

    https://youtu.be/tCAffMSWSzY

    Saleem alilikum is a greeting between Muslims, Christians don't use it, the first thing a Muslim will do is greet you in this way as a recognition signal in the Muslim world
    Let's edit and cherry-pick. Who was his audience?
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    #24

    Jan 9, 2017, 03:28 PM
    Yes what was he saying here I am a muslim talking to muslims?
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    #25

    Jan 9, 2017, 03:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes what was he saying here I am a muslim talking to muslims?
    Try again.
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    #26

    Jan 9, 2017, 03:48 PM
    I don't think Trump deserves a chance either but there isn't much people can do unless he gets impeached.
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    #27

    Jan 9, 2017, 04:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    How early on is early on ?

    This is as recent as 2015.

    Did Obama just say he’s a Muslim (again)?


    Here's a direct quote from that link --

    "Obama has long denied he was ever a Muslim ."
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    #28

    Jan 9, 2017, 04:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Do your own research I have done mine

    https://youtu.be/tCAffMSWSzY

    Saleem alilikum is a greeting between Muslims, Christians don't use it, the first thing a Muslim will do is greet you in this way as a recognition signal in the Muslim world


    You surprise me paraclete. I gave you credit for much more intelligence than you are exhibiting here.

    Yesterday, my Hindu friend greeted me. I replied with "namaste" while slightly bowing and clasping my hands together as if in prayer. It's a greeting that recognizes the divine in each other.

    Did that make me a Hindu? No.

    Watching that video and concluding from it that Obama is a Muslim is a reflection on your ability to react rationally. Your conclusion is nothing short of bizarre.

    I'm sorry but some things have to be said even when they're very uncomfortable.
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    #29

    Jan 9, 2017, 05:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Try again.
    Let's try it again, wa-saleem alikaium. Muslims have been wishing each other peace for 1400 years and the outcome? They live in a region where there never has been peace, they, like the US, have always been at war with someone, and yet you want to defend the Muslim in Chief, who took no decisive action against ISIS, just fiddled around the edges, who destroyed Gaddaffi who kept islamic jihadism in check, who left Afghanistan in a worse state that what he found it, who helped Saudi Arabia wage a war in Yemen, who kowtowed to the saudi princes. Wake up, thankfully his days are numbered
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    Jan 9, 2017, 05:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Let's try it again, wa-saleem alikaium. Muslims have been wishing each other peace for 1400 years and the outcome? They live in a region where there never has been peace, they, like the US, have always been at war with someone, and yet you want to defend the Muslim in Chief, who took no decisive action against ISIS, just fiddled around the edges, who destroyed Gaddaffi who kept islamic jihadism in check, who left Afghanistan in a worse state that what he found it, who helped Saudi Arabia wage a war in Yemen, who kowtowed to the saudi princes. Wake up, thankfully his days are numbered
    And his audience was? (she asked yet again)
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    #31

    Jan 9, 2017, 05:33 PM
    Hello again, Athos:

    I listened as they called my President a Muslim.
    I listened as they called him and his family a pack of monkeys.
    I listened as they said he wasn't born here.


    As you can see, it will NEVER change. That would be NEVER EVER..

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    #32

    Jan 9, 2017, 05:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    I don't think Trump deserves a chance either but there isn't much people can do unless he gets impeached.
    Hello earl:

    Oh, yes there is.. We can take to the streets.. Thunderous crowds CAN change political winds..

    The Republicans in congress are AFRAID of Trump.. If they go up against him, he WILL destroy them, and they know it.. BUT, if they SEE that they have the people behind them, maybe they'll DO their job..

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    #33

    Jan 9, 2017, 06:50 PM
    I dont think they know what their job is suppose to be. Even if you hold their hands they still wouldn't know what to do.
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    #34

    Jan 9, 2017, 07:35 PM
    THe left is STILL giving Obama a chance 8 years later and he still hasn't done anything right or made anything better yet for any taxpaying person. Trump isn't even in office yet and he is already making a positive difference and they just can't stand that.
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    #35

    Jan 9, 2017, 07:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    [Trump] is already making a positive difference
    Please elaborate on what that is.

    He doesn't stay on key real well --

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...1A&FORM=VRDGAR
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    #36

    Jan 10, 2017, 12:04 AM
    Don't be negative, he has had an effect on retaining employment, sure he needs to work harder but it is early days, we are at -10 right now, let's see where we are at +100, remember nothing is instant
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    #37

    Jan 10, 2017, 09:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    he has had an effect on retaining employment
    Huh? What have I missed?!
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    #38

    Jan 10, 2017, 10:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Don't be negative, he has had an effect on retaining employment, sure he needs to work harder but it is early days, we are at -10 right now, let's see where we are at +100, remember nothing is instant
    What's this "WE" stuff, Aussie person? As usual you have no clue about the American Way of doing things, and as AMERICANS we have the RIGHT to be negative, LOUD, and oppositional to our political leaders. In short we don't have to wait, or give him a chance to do a darn thing before we jump in his crap!

    He may be the duly elected leader of the pack, but he ain't the DICTATOR and we ain't his mindless subjects. Also his effect on employment remains to be seen, and as usual you make statements without facts, which are available, if you can get beyond your blatant racist tendencies.
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    #39

    Jan 10, 2017, 04:02 PM
    Tal curb your racist tendencies, I note you think no one outside your borders can have an opinion, pity you didn't shout LOUDER against BO but you still have a few days, but remember the world is tired of the american way, there is too much collateral damage
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    #40

    Jan 10, 2017, 04:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Please elaborate on what that is.

    He doesn't stay on key real well --

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...1A&FORM=VRDGAR

    He's already dome more about increasing the number of jobs than Obama has... (the labor participation rate under Obama went down significantly and that's the only true indication of how many people are NOT employed in the country).

    Actually the collective mental meltdown on the left was funny at first....then it became annoying, and now its outright pathetic.

    I suggest the same for people who can't get over a breakup or a death or divorce...at a certain point its time they seek a mental health counselor, because the next election isn't for another 4 years and there is NOTHING they can do to change it.

    The the more they yap..the more it appears to everyone else, they have a real problem that needs addressing and the less anyone really wants to hear it. Particularly since Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet, and they defended every stupid and illegal thing Obama or Hillary has done so they are hardly objective or unbiased.

    This is why effectively nobody believes anything the lame stream media says. They were caught thanks to Wiki-leaks colluding with the DNC and pushing fake news day after day....to the point nobody even believes the weatherperson any more.

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