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    Oct 24, 2008, 03:29 PM
    sndbay,
    You are right, there will come a day when it will be to late for many.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    Oct 25, 2008, 04:22 AM

    There tends to be some, who feel these messages written are not for all.
    I view that to be a deceptive thought when, "THE WORD" tells us it is unto All.
    Perhaps they do not see THE WORD as the flesh of Christ with us today?
    In my heart and mind, the flesh and blood of Christ paid for us all.

    Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

    Mark 13:36 Lest coming suddenly He find you sleeping.

    Mark 13:33-34 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. [For the Son of man is] as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.

    Because Christ is the authority and we are the servants, commanded by Chirst to watch.
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    Oct 25, 2008, 03:38 PM
    sndbay,
    Christ gave us several commands and directions to follow.
    I try to do follow them.
    They are some of the works of being a Christian.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    Oct 26, 2008, 05:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    sndbay,
    Christ gave us several commands and directions to follow.
    I try to do follow them.
    They are some of the works of being a Christian.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
    I know you do Fred, everyone should try.. But also everyone grows in their effects of trying and through experiences. The greatest is Christ and His path for us. Christ alone is the answer for us.

    Quoted thread: The snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. It's up to us to watch for that which would cause us to follow something other then Christ.
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    Oct 26, 2008, 03:26 PM
    sndbay,
    I follow God The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all three as the bible tells us to.
    Each of those three are equal to each other and should be treated as such.
    When I pray to God I pray to all three.
    Some times I pray to Just one of them such as to the Holy Spirit for inspiration.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    Oct 27, 2008, 11:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    sndbay,
    I follow God The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all three as the bible tells us to.
    Each of those three are equal to each other and should be treated as such.
    When I pray to God I pray to all three.
    Some times I pray to Just one of them such as to the Holy Spirit for inspiration.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
    We are off thread with this Fred, but I understand what you are saying. Our Father's Word holds so much divine intervention by three in one. My prayer is done as Christ has told us. And as Christ, Himself did.

    Do you recall (Mark 14:44 And He cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.) Christ left His disciples to go pray three different times. (divine identity, a sign for us as final) As is the Three in One.


    Numbers in scripture hold SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE.

    The number three shows the final step to refer on many final occurances.( The divine intervention of identity.)

    3 commissions found it's final step in deliverance of Israel (Matt 28:19-20);

    3 suppers brought the final step of what is known as last supper (John 13:2);

    3 days in the resurrection of Christ known as The Third Day. ( Jews did not accept evidence of any man's death, known as the final day of life on earth, before identifying each remained as is for three days.)

    From all these occurances, we can easily understand that when we read of three, the third will be the final in which we will identify in evidence of divine intervention. All three however are three in the same. (3 days, 3 supper, 3 commission)

    The mind should be triggered at this point in seeing Our Father, The Son, and Holy Ghost as three and all in the same.. "ONE"

    Think of each time we have read of three.. For within the significance of that number three, God has intended for us to find evidence to identify His divine intervention..
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    Oct 27, 2008, 06:47 PM
    sndbay ,
    Thanks for that
    Fred
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    Oct 28, 2008, 12:31 PM
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    sndbay ,
    Thanks for that
    Fred
    Thank God for that! For the awareness of each out of the three, is as important as the united to "ONE"

    Because without one + one + one... we do not have Three.

    The divine intervention of identity.= THREE

    Col 2:2-3 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

    Col 2:4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.

    Col 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
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    Oct 28, 2008, 08:21 PM
    sndbay ,
    Yes, thank God for that.
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    Oct 29, 2008, 04:22 AM

    Who Does Not Fall Asleep

    Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.


    Daniel 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

    The firmament is heaven: Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
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    Oct 29, 2008, 07:30 PM
    sndbay ,
    Thanks for that.
    Fred
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    #32

    Oct 31, 2008, 05:38 AM

    Watch... don't be asleep

    Daniel 11:20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes [in] the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
    Daniel 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
    Daniel 11:22-23 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant. And after the league [made] with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
    Daniel 11:24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do [that] which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: [yea], and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
    Daniel11:25 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do [that] which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: [yea], and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
    Daniel 11:26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.
    Daniel 11:27 And both these kings' hearts [shall be] to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end [shall be] at the time appointed.
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    #33

    Oct 31, 2008, 06:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sndbay View Post
    Why Are we told to be Watchful ? And might we be counted accountable? Will you fall asleep in Christ?

    Luke 21:35-36 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

    Luke 21 6 These things which you see, the days will come in which there shall not be left a stone upon a stone that shall not be thrown down. 7 And they asked him, saying: Master, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when they shall begin to come to pass? 8 Who said: Take heed you be not seduced; for many will come in my name, saying, I am he; and the time is at hand: go ye not therefore after them. 9 And when you shall hear of wars and seditions, be not terrified: these things must first come to pass; but the end is not yet presently. 10 Then he said to them: Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.

    11 And there shall be great earthquakes in divers places, and pestilences, and famines, and terrors from heaven; and there shall be great signs. 12 But before all these things, they will lay their hands upon you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and into prisons, dragging you before kings and governors, for my name's sake. 13 And it shall happen unto you for a testimony. 14 Lay it up therefore into your hearts, not to meditate before how you shall answer: 15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to resist and gainsay.

    16 And you shall be betrayed by your parents and brethren, and kinsmen and friends; and some of you they will put to death. 17 And you shall be hated by all men for my name's sake. 18 But a hair of your head shall not perish. 19 In your patience you shall possess your souls. 20 And when you shall see Jerusalem compassed about with an army; then know that the desolation thereof is at hand.

    21 Then let those who are in Judea, flee to the mountains; and those who are in the midst thereof, depart out: and those who are in the countries, not enter into it. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things may be fulfilled, that are written. 23 But woe to them that are with child, and give suck in those days; for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword; and shall be led away captives into all nations; and Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles; till the times of the nations be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves;

    26 Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved; 27 And then they shall see the Son of man coming in a cloud, with great power and majesty. 28 But when these things begin to come to pass, look up, and lift up your heads, because your redemption is at hand. 29 And he spoke to them in a similitude. See the fig tree, and all the trees: 30 When they now shoot forth their fruit, you know that summer is nigh;


    31 So you also, when you shall see these things come to pass, know that the kingdom of God is at hand. 32 Amen, I say to you, this generation shall not pass away, till all things be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest perhaps your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness, and the cares of this life, and that day come upon you suddenly. 35 For as a snare shall it come upon all that sit upon the face of the whole earth.

    36 Watch ye, therefore, praying at all times, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that are to come, and to stand before the Son of man.


    This was a premonition of the destruction of Jerusalem in 77ad.

    6 These things which you see, the days will come in which there shall not be left a stone upon a stone that shall not be thrown down.


    It is also a warning of the endtimes for all of us:
    26 Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved; 27 And then they shall see the Son of man coming in a cloud, with great power and majesty.

    35 For as a snare shall it come upon all that sit upon the face of the whole earth.

    But it is also a warning to be prepared for death in all generations. Lest the Son of Man come for your soul and you be unprepared.

    Sincerely,

    De Maria
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    Oct 31, 2008, 09:17 AM
    De Maria,
    Very Good.
    Thanks,
    Fred
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    Nov 1, 2008, 04:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by De Maria View Post
    [I]
    This was a premonition of the destruction of Jerusalem in 77ad.

    6 These things which you see, the days will come in which there shall not be left a stone upon a stone that shall not be thrown down.

    It is also a warning of the endtimes for all of us:
    26 Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved; 27 And then they shall see the Son of man coming in a cloud, with great power and majesty.

    35 For as a snare shall it come upon all that sit upon the face of the whole earth.

    But it is also a warning to be prepared for death in all generations. Lest the Son of Man come for your soul and you be unprepared.

    Sincerely,

    De Maria
    Threadening Against Enemies.. The Lord's Day events and consequences

    What Will Be..
    Zechariah 14:1Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

    14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

    14:3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

    Events and Consequences

    Zechariah 14:4-5And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

    Christ coming

    Zechariah 14:6-7-8
    And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the light shall not be clear, nor dark:But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, [that] at evening time it shall be light. And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
    note: living water (Ezek 47)

    Christ Will Rule
    (The Lord's Day Isaish 2:11-12)=(1000 years 2 Peter 3:8)

    Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
    note:(Revelation 11:15)

    Events and Consequences

    Zechariah 14:10-11All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and [from] the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses. And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
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    Nov 2, 2008, 06:59 PM
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    Very interesting, isn't it.
    Fred
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    Nov 3, 2008, 06:44 AM
    Posted #33
    Luke 21 6 These things which you see, the days will come in which there shall not be left a stone upon a stone that shall not be thrown down. 7 And they asked him, saying: Master, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign when they shall begin to come to pass?

    This was a premonition of the destruction of Jerusalem in 77ad.
    [/B]
    Fred I disagree with DeMaria saying... [was as she has shown in her quote] This scripture is what will be when Christ returns. AndZech 14 calls forth the truth of each refer: of this same occurance to take place. Luke 21:5 talks of the temple garnish today with gifts and goodly stones.. This warning is not as it was, yet it is to come.. Because today individual put their love in what they see or can touch. They find favor outside of the truth, and Truth is that Christ is the temple.

    Luke 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned (meaning garnished) with goodly stones and gifts, he said, 6 [As for these things ]which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.


    Christ will return to destory all that is significant to anyone other then what His significance is in Truth. We are not to treasure items nor are we to treasure anyone above Our Father. Christ, Himself was humbled to wash His disciples feet as a servant. We as servants to God exhault no favorite position in ourselves, we are all sinners.. Christ will destroy what satan will bring unto us, as it is written and we are fore told how anti-christ will come, and stand where he should not ... Revelation 13:11-18
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    Nov 3, 2008, 04:30 PM
    sndbay
    Thanks for your thots on that.
    I still agree with De Maria.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    Nov 6, 2008, 06:19 AM

    Evident by witness of more then one book.. Follow who you wish, but Christ's testimony is what should be followed. Respectfully known...

    Matthew 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? And what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

    Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

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    Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
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    Nov 6, 2008, 07:28 PM
    sndbay,
    The destruction of the temple took place long ago.
    So how can one stand in the holy place today?
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred

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