[smoothy]

Nothing you wrote has any bearing on what I wrote yet you quoted me. It's like you have an on-going monologue regardless on the topic.

I see very little you EVER write that has any bearing on the topic at hand... other than to push partizan socialist viewpoints and pick trouble.

Isn't Dudley Do-Right knocking on your door?

[NeedKarma]

Heh... so very bitter at the world..
Have fun!

[smoothy]

Not a fan of Duddley Do Right?. he was Canadian. I watched it as a kid.

[speechlesstx]

And after a not so pretty week for the administration on Benghazi, the most transparent administration EVAH met with the media. Off the record of course.

P.S. I think Hillary is going under the bus.

[tomder55]

She is right where John Kerry wants her.
Kerry: State Dept. 'Will Leave No Stone Unturned' On Benghazi - KMBZ

[speechlesstx]

Part 2 of my rare agreement with Dennis Kucinich...

Progressive former Congressman Dennis Kucinich said Sunday on Fox News that the Obama Administration’s Libyan policy was to blame for the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the American consulate in Benghazi. The former Congressman argued before leaving Congress after losing the his primary for his newly drawn Congressional district in Ohio that American intervention in Libya was a mistake.

Kucinich argued the Obama Administration initially said it was a protest because of what he called “the failure of the Benghazi policy” as well as the upcoming election last November.

“What the attack on the consulate brings up is the failure of the Benghazi policy from the beginning. That’s why they had to call it a street demonstration instead of an attack. On the eve of an election that brought up a whole new narrative about foreign policy, about dealing with terrorism, and about the consequences that led to four deaths of people who served the United States.”

The former Congressman also slammed the Obama Administration response to the attack saying he was “offended” by the response to the attack and the lack of consulate security leading up to it.

“We went into Benghazi under the assumption that somehow there was going to be a massacre in Benghazi,” he said. “So we went there to protect the Libyan people. We couldn’t go into Benghazi to protect our own Americans who were serving there? I’m offended by this, and there have to be real answers to the questions that are being raised.”

How's that foreign policy guru looking now? Are you lefties seeing a pattern yet? Seems Obama's primary policy objective is image control and nothing more.

Who gives a damn about 4 dead Americans, giving al Qaeda and its Jihadist allies a free zone to operate from in Libya and an otherwise totally incoherent foreign policy, he has an image to protect.

[talaniman]

Why was Chris Stevens even in Benghazi at the most dangerous time of the year and when he knew all the security was in Tripoli and his consulate was a target numerous times? He himself complained of the inadequate security, so why did he ignore his own warnings?

[speechlesstx]

Why was Chris Stevens even in Benghazi at the most dangerous time of the year and when he knew all the security was in Tripoli and his consulate was a target numerous times? He himself complained of the inadequate security, so why did he ignore his own warnings?

You should be asking that of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

[tomder55]

I gave you the answer to that . Got to get Petraeus under oath. He and Evita ,along with Stevens were coordinating the weapon transfers .The policy of arming the anti-Assad jihadists (and recruiting Libyans for the effort ) was undemined by the drone policy that then Deputy National Security Advisor John Brennan (now CIA chief ) was running out of the White House .
What happened ? A drone strike took out an AQ leader named Abu Yahya al-Libi on June 4, 2012 .His death was later confirmed by the Ayman al-Zawahiri September 2012. He called for revenge attacks against Americans in Libya in particular ,and around the ummah on the anniversary of 9-11-01.
This was the real cause of all the embassy attacks... not some stupid Youtube video that no one saw.

[talaniman]

You should be asking that of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

They will never say anything about the judgment of an ambassador even if he was known to ditch his security detail in the past. Nor I doubt they lay blame to him disobeying an order to keep his head down and those would have been my ORDERS to him.

Nor will any one divulge any operation secrets of the CIA. Having said all that the real business of the nations problems gets moved off the priority list.

To Tom,

On September 11, 2012, a series of protests and violent attacks began in response to a YouTube trailer for a film called Innocence of Muslims, considered blasphemous by many Muslims. The reactions began at U.S. diplomatic mission in Cairo, Egypt, and quickly spread across the Muslim world to additional U.S. and other countries' diplomatic missions and other locations, with issues beyond the offense at the movie trailer becoming subjects of protest. In Cairo, Egypt a group scaled the embassy wall and tore down the American flag to replace it with a black Islamic flag.

Protests at diplomatic missions [edit]

Widespread protests followed screening of excerpts of the trailer in Egypt. Many of the protests were focused on United States embassies and consular posts, with some leading to violent confrontations.

Please take note of the Interactive map included on the site. I count 36 protests and attacks. Whether they saw the movie or not, they sure knew about it. The fundamentalists made sure of that.

[speechlesstx]

Go ahead Tal, blame the dead ambassador for his own demise and remain in denial about the rest.

[smoothy]

At the time of Benghazigate... that video had all of roughly 600 views. Most of those "Protestors" didn't even have electricity or running water... much less internet access.

The Video from the embassy, and yes they do have video cameras at EVERY Embassy... and those all feed back to the USA real-time... showed no protest in Libya. Obama wasn't interested and went to bed right afterwards... and Hillary was pounding down a few drinks... neither did their jobs.

[tomder55]

They will never say anything about the judgment of an ambassador even if he was known to ditch his security detail in the past. Nor I doubt they lay blame to him disobeying an order to keep his head down and those would have been my ORDERS to him.

Nor will any one divulge any operation secrets of the CIA. Having said all that the real business of the nations problems gets moved off the priority list.

To Tom,



Protests at diplomatic missions [edit]



Please take note of the Interactive map included on the site. I count 36 protests and attacks. Whether they saw the movie or not, they sure knew about it. The fundamentalists made sure of that.

It is a flat out lie about the video... Mohammed al Zawahiri, the younger brother of AQ leader Ayman al Zawahiri, admitted to helping organize the protests at the U.S. embassy in Cairo. Mohammed al Zawahiri is a longtime Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative .The EIJ is basically AQ in Egypt . Both the EIJ and Gamaa Islamiya (IG), another close ally of AQ , planned to protest outside of the U.S. embassy in Cairo before the video became known.

Again... The day before the embassy protest in Cairo, on September 10,Ayman al Zawahiri called on jihadists to exact revenge for the death of Abu Yahya al Libi. .

42-minute video recorded by Zawahiri, who took over as emir of the group after Osama bin Laden was killed by US Navy Seals last year, announced the death of Abu Yahya al-Libi.

American monitoring groups said the video was posted on Jihadi internet forums on Monday, a day ahead of the eleventh anniversary of 9/11.

It is the first appearance of Zawahiri, who is believed to be hiding in Pakistan's tribal regions, in three months.

"I proudly announce to the Muslim umma and to the Mujahideen ... the news of the martyrdom of the lion of Libya Sheikh Hassan Mohammed Qaed," he said, referring to Libi by his birth name, rather than his nom de guerre.


The death of the group's chief propagandist was interpreted as the biggest in a series of blows to al-Qaeda since the raid that killed Osama bin Laden last year.

9/11 anniversary: Ayman al-Zawahiri confirms June death of Abu Yahya al-Libi - Telegraph

[talaniman]

Even given your inability to access a bigger confluence of events, does it make any logical sense for an ambassador to be in Benghazi on 9-11 in the first place?

[smoothy]

Even given your inability to access a bigger confluence of events, does it make any logical sense for an ambassador to be in Benghazi on 9-11 in the first place?

Hillary specifically asked for this particular man to go... at her request. Makes you wonder is we don't have another Vince Foster type scandal at play here.

[Catsmine]

The rumors from the tinfoil hat crowd say that either he was there to arrange shipments of arms to the AQ in Syria via the Turkish Ambassador or that he was to be the star in a kidnapping/hostage rescue that was screwed up when Ty Woods lit the 'kidnappers' up with his laser designator.

[tomder55]

Even given your inability to access a bigger confluence of events, does it make any logical sense for an ambassador to be in Benghazi on 9-11 in the first place?

Already told you why he was there . He met with the Turkish ambassador Ali Sait Akin 5 days after a Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, dropped anchor in the Turkish port of Iskenderun... 35 miles from the Syrian border ; on Sept. 6... carrying 400 tons of cargo including RPGs and shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles (MANPADS) .


Now this tin foil hat found the NY Slimes report that Evita and Petraeus met to discuss vetting and arming Syrian rebel groups .
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/us...pagewanted=all
The Slimes said that the White House worried about the risks, and with President Obama in the midst of a re-election bid, they were rebuffed. I don't think that is accurate . I think they ran it from that point in a covert manner.
Why do I think that ? Because the same Slimes in June of last year reported that the CIA was operating in Turkey helping allies decide which Syrian opposition fighters across the border will receive arms to fight the Syrian government.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/wo...pagewanted=all

We already know that Stevens was heavily involved in collecting and securing Libyan weapons after the fall of Q Daffy . We also know that trucks with heavy machine guns mounted on them took up blocking positions around the mission at around 8:00 p.m ,effectively cordoning off the area, over an hour before the attack(9:40 p.m) at roughly the same time that the meeting was concluding... and somehow Ali Sait Akin got out of the area before the attack began.

So why was Stevens in Benghazi that night ? To negotiate with the Turkish ambassador which groups of Syrian rebels could get the weapons transfers.
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[talaniman]

So what would the purpose of congress making a CIA covert operation public?

[paraclete]

Pure politics Tal, embarrass the administration

[Catsmine]

a CIA covert operation public?

It went public when Stevens was killed. Only 6 Ambassadors have been killed in U.S. history. Congress is making the cover-up public, just like Evita got her start by doing to Nixon.