[paraclete]

We are watching history and many landmarks are being made now,

Landmarks? The only landmark from this era will be a great big wall, that is if it is built. Trump has spent his time tearing down, not building up. Trump is about destruction and I wonder what he will destroy next. We are fortunate that so far he hasn't started a war, call that a landmark if you will, but he has time yet

[tomder55]

here is some odd behavior from a President in Putin's pocket .

https://www.mediaite.com/online/mike...ion-of-crimea/

[paraclete]

Nah, just more of the same, speak out of one side of the mouth then the other

[tomder55]

yeah that's the problem ;I wait to see what he does ;not what he says .

[paraclete]

Worry about a false flag incident with Iran, this is where his focus is now, he is looking for another excuse to use his cruise missiles, he may get a surprise if he does

[tomder55]

oh the irony .

https://www.facebook.com/ukr.embassy...type=3&theater

[talaniman]

I don't Facebook so what's the irony?

[paraclete]

The irony is that Mueller pursued the same path he accuses others of

[talaniman]

Somebody please explain...

[paraclete]

Read the Facebook article and you will know what you didn't know about the grand inquisitor

[talaniman]

Did you mean this?

https://conservativedailypost.com/ne...ine-president/

Many Americans are reasonably questioning how Mueller can charge Manafort for business dealings in Ukraine and Russia when Mueller appeared to be

doing the exact same thing

.

You do know Manafort isn't charged with doing business in Ukraine or Russia don't you? He's charged with BANK FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDRYING, AND TAX EVASION. It's all laid out here;

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ndictment.html

If I got the wrong right wing loony crap then please correct me.

[paraclete]

Did you mean this?

https://conservativedailypost.com/ne...ine-president/



You do know Manafort isn't charged with doing business in Ukraine or Russia don't you? He's charged with BANK FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDRYING, AND TAX EVASION. It's all laid out here;

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ndictment.html

If I got the wrong right wing loony crap then please correct me.

I think the point is Tal that Mueller should recuse himself from this one

[talaniman]

Why, because right wing loony FAKE news site says so? What are the FACTS you have?

[paraclete]

You have seen the facts in this thread

[talaniman]

You guys seldom have FACTS at least not legit ones.

[tomder55]

Then why the hush hush about his meeting with Yanukovych while he was Manafort's client ,and at a time when the emperor was critical of Yanukovych, accusing him of being pro-Russian ? You can talk all you want about Manafort's business activities being the root of the trial. But you know and I know that the real reason for this is to put the squeeze on Manafort to turn him on Trump (for what crime is still unclear). If that wasn't the truth then why has the judge spent half the trial so far admonishing the prosecution to stop straying from the specifics of the charges ? Also why does the left constantly point out Republican politicians who visited Moscow pre-election and neglects to point out the Mueller also visited Russia prior to his visit to Kiev ? Coincidence ? I don't think so Mueller was there to represent the emperor at the same time that Manafort and the Podesta group were lobbying Congress on behalf of Yanukovych.

[tomder55]

Mueller is allegedly investigating Russian Collusion with the 2016 Trump campaign.

Manafort worked for Trump for just 5 months in 2016
but was charged with crimes between 2004-10 when he worked for Ukraine.

[paraclete]

I think the operative word is allegedly

[talaniman]

That's what I mean about FACTS. Manafort is charged with crimes he committed in 2015-2017. In the US, not in Ukraine. ALLEGEDLY!

[paraclete]

That's what I mean about FACTS. Manafort is charged with crimes he committed in 2015-2017. In the US, not in Ukraine. ALLEGEDLY!

It all seems like a storm in a teacup, the "he said it might have been" type of thing