[paraclete]

Hello again,
Wow! Didja hear this commie? He's making up another mythical right wing WAR - this time on the poor. Come on. Everybody KNOWS right wingers love the poor ALONG with women. Libs. Duh!

But, hold on there, podner. It's NOT a lib. In fact, he's the rather conservative Governor of Ohio, Republican John Kasich. He must be a RINO, then huh?

excon

You hear some strange things lately, yes there is a war on the poor, an attempt to restrict help to them, and yes, it seems your republicans are at the forefront of this reverse largesse. Just maybe there are a few who see the sense of making availability of health care easier. If the insurers are gouging the market they should be dealt with, but the Republicans need to stop bellyaching and start taking action

[tomder55]

Kasich is a populist more than a conservative. He's a Guv of a big swing state who wants to run for the Republican party nomination for President.He shifts with the tides. When he needs conservative support he claims he's proudly conservative (or as Mittens called it "severely conservative ) .Now he's pivoting, positioning himself as a so called centrist . He and Christie will be making the case that they are successfully governing in northern more liberal states. But Christie has a built in advantage for that support since he can make the claim that he successfully governs with a Democrat legislature in Trenton. All Kaisich is doing is splitting the GOP in Ohio .

I can tell him that being seduced by that temporary influx of Federal money to expand Medicaid is in the long run a terrible mistake ,despite the short term advantage it give the state in Federal transfers. The truth is that Medicaid is a money draining failed Federal program. Over half of the doctors no longer accept Medicaid patients because they get screwed with the reimbursement payments and are burdened with the bureaucratic regulations.What the Medicaid expansion does is trap ever more patients into a program that is seriously in need of reform itself . That's poor friendly ? Well maybe it can be spun that way... but we know better .

[talaniman]

Tom you have to do something until the job creators get off their arses and live up to their own name.

States wouldn't even need "temporary" help if a few jobs were created. Everything should be shut down until you guys get your way or what?

[tomder55]

Tom you have to do something until the job creators get off their arses and live up to their own name.

States wouldn't even need "temporary" help if a few jobs were created. Everything should be shut down until you guys get your way or what?

States have it within their means to get jobs. Texas is getting them . The difference is that Texas welcomes business.Kasich proposed a “frack tax” on oil and gas production and an extension of the sales tax to many services . So who is more business friendly ?

States wouldn't even need "temporary" help if a few jobs were created.

Medicaid is bankrupting states across the union. A couple years of Federal transfers won't change that . Medicaid is in need of serious reform..... not expansion.

[smoothy]

You hear some strange things lately, yes there is a war on the poor, an attempt to restrict help to them, and yes, it seems your republicans are at the forefront of this reverse largesse. Just maybe there are a few who see the sense of making availability of health care easier. If the insurers are gouging the market they should be dealt with, but the Republicans need to stop bellyaching and start taking action

As opposed to the Democrats who's entitlement programs are designed to kepp the poor, poor for life, provide zero incentive to ever get off the gravy train... and continue to be leaches for life?

[speechlesstx]

And some states like Nevada are sitting on huge oil and gas reserves but most of the land is owned by the feds so it will go untapped instead of giving them a huge economic boost.

[paraclete]

As opposed to the Democrats who's entitlement programs are designed to kepp the poor, poor for life, provide zero incentive to ever get off the gravy train... and continue to be leaches for life?

I suspect there is a difference between keeping them fed and keeping them poor, the ones who keep them poor are the ones who ship the jobs offshore and then exploit those who are poor with low wages. In order for these people to get off welfare they have to have an alternative, it is no good saying get a job if there are no jobs. It is hard to live in a bankrupt country, even harder when the country doesn't realise it is bankrupt. You once had a lot of pull factors now you need some push factors

[talaniman]

States have it within their means to get jobs. Texas is getting them . The difference is that Texas welcomes business.Kasich proposed a “frack tax” on oil and gas production and an extension of the sales tax to many services . So who is more business friendly ?


Medicaid is bankrupting states across the union. A couple years of Federal transfers won't change that . Medicaid is in need of serious reform..... not expansion.

Page 2: Texas Job Creation Prospers, But at What Cost? - ABC News

Income & Poverty In Texas Still Not Recovered « CBS Dallas / Fort Worth

A thriving oil and gas industry has kept unemployment below the national average since 2007, the last year before the Great Recession. Since 2008, Texas has been a national leader in adding jobs, but between 2008 and 2012, the percentage of people under 65 years old with private health insurance dropped from 57.6 percent to 54.7 percent.

That means the majority of 2.4 million currently uninsured Texans who earn under that threshold will not be eligible for Medicaid or subsidized health insurance, according to the data. They will continue to rely on charity care provided at public hospitals, which is funded through local taxes and higher private insurance rates.

We all know what low regulations get us, and stuff blows up here all the time.

Texas Lawmakers Too Busy Targeting Abortion Providers to Deal With Exploding Fertilizer Plants | Mother Jones

Its telling what Texas spends its money on, and what it doesn't, but those jobs keeps rolling in right?

[speechlesstx]

IN other words Texas should be more like Kalifornia, it's much safer and cheaper to live there. And soon, they'll be able to ride a high speed rail no one wants.

[talaniman]

I live in Texas, and don't worry about California so much. Cuts in education bother me. Taking land from citizens for the use by a rich energy company to sell oil overseas, bothers me. It's a great state don't get me wrong, but we can do better and will.

[tomder55]

I live in Texas, and don't worry about California so much. Cuts in education bother me. Taking land from citizens for the use by a rich energy company to sell oil overseas, bothers me. It’s a great state don't get me wrong, but we can do better and will.

Yeah ,I'm sure the libs there strive to make it more like New York .

[talaniman]

Yeah ,I'm sure the libs there strive to make it more like New York .

Oh Hell no. We love open space, fresh air, and sunshine.

[speechlesstx]

Yeah ,I'm sure the libs there strive to make it more like New York .

It's their own brand of liberalism, they're just weird.

[tomder55]

Got plenty of that here .

[speechlesstx]

In spite of the fact that everyone knows the "if you like it you can keep it" promise was a big, fat a lie, Sebelius repeated it today.

[tomder55]

Yeah I've head her spin for 2 hrs now . She is blaming the insurance companies.

[speechlesstx]

Yeah I've head her spin for 2 hrs now . She is blaming the insurance companies.

That's how the regime admits to accountability, by blaming everyone else.

[talaniman]

They are responsible for the grandfathered insurance policies they have issued since2010. They have great pricing latitude to administered those policies. Thought you knew.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Yeah I've head her spin for 2 hrs now . She is blaming the insurance companies.

I'm watching too. I thought this was when you guys were gonna get a piece of her. Ain't happening, is it?? Looks like she's holding her own pretty well. In fact, it looks like the wingers are badgering her.

excon

[speechlesstx]

They are responsible for the grandfathered insurance policies they have issued since2010. They have great pricing latitude to administered those policies. Thought you knew.

There you go again, treating us like we're stupid. Enough if this "the buck stops there" nonsense," that grandfathering BS was another ruse from the beginning. I'd say it sucks for you that the media is finally exposing the lies but the regime is actively still lying about it today.