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    #341

    May 10, 2013, 06:46 AM
    How about all your and everyone else's noxious comments directed at conservatives ending... Or are Muslims some special protected class on this site all of a sudden?

    Because if they are... then this site has gone to the dogs...
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    #342

    May 10, 2013, 06:46 AM
    Just don't close the thread.. a lot of good contribution gets lost when threads are shut down
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    #343

    May 10, 2013, 06:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I don't believe in Islam, or Christianity personally, nor any other religion because from the outside looking in all you zealots look and sound the same.
    You think I'm a zealot? Dude, you obviously know little about Christianity.
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    #344

    May 10, 2013, 06:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Just as Christianity/Judaism evolved from barbarism, cruelty, and exploitation(?), so shall Islam, and that's what all the unrest is really about. Unfortunately you believe what western scholars(?) tells you and have never read and gotten contexts to the passages that are pulled from the Quran.

    I find it amusing that Christians having survived centuries of barbarism now degrade others trying to do the same thing. And the lengths you go justifying your own self superiority.
    I've read and seen enough of the pasages pointed out over the years... It's not just taking someone's word for it.

    They are there in writing for everyone to see. Nobody has to take my or anyone else's word on it. See for yourself.
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    #345

    May 10, 2013, 06:49 AM
    Hello again, smoothy:

    If you understood WORDS, we could talk.

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    #346

    May 10, 2013, 06:51 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    just don't close the thread
    I can only close threads that I started. But, I wouldn't close it anyway.. I think smoothy gets it. Orrrrr, maybe not.

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    #347

    May 10, 2013, 06:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Disliking Muslims is NOT racism. Calling them names IS...
    Hi, ex;

    The only namecalling I see on here was one reference to turbans. The pedophilia, the violence, and the paranoia are all taken directly from the Muslim holy books, the Haditha. The paranoia I've noticed in several Israeli and Jewish commentaries, as well. Is this from the Tanakh or do the religions spawned in that area just have long memories?
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    #348

    May 10, 2013, 06:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    I find it amusing that Christians having survived centuries of barbarism now degrade others trying to do the same thing. And the lengths you go justifying your own self superiority.
    I don't see Islam evolving anytime soon, it is full of reversionists. A lot of the centuries of barbarism Christians survived had a muslim barbarian on the other side of the conflict. It wasn't until Christians got their head around crusades should start at home that they freed Europe and they were still fighting in the twentieth century. Now I'm not discounting christian despotism there was a lot of that too, I expect the message didn't really penetrate or was subverted, another story
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    #349

    May 10, 2013, 07:03 AM
    Hello Catsmine:

    The only namecalling I see on here was one reference to turbans.
    Isn't that ENOUGH?? And, it wasn't ONE either, as though that makes a difference... Are you DEFENDING his comments??

    I don't know what's so difficult about distinguishing between talking ABOUT people, and CALLING them names... Truly..

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    #350

    May 10, 2013, 07:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    If you understood WORDS, we could talk.

    excon
    I understand words very well... and I Understand the roots of words as well. I might not be an English Major but I am a college graduate. And while I am not in the Diplomat Corps and never have been... I've spent a lot of time with Foreign Diplomats and officials over the last 27 years, some of them very high ranking..

    I don't subscribe to the Clintonian method of redifining words like "is" or what is actually "sex" to suit the moment..
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    #351

    May 10, 2013, 07:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Catsmine:

    Isn't that ENOUGH??? And, it wasn't ONE either, as though that makes a difference... Are you DEFENDING his comments???

    I dunno what's so difficult about distinguishing between talking ABOUT people, and CALLING them names... Truly..

    excon
    Not a big fan of racism myself, but cultural references don't really qualify in my book. Some semites wear towels around their heads, true. Some hindis do too. Some of each don't.
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    #352

    May 10, 2013, 08:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    I dunno what's so difficult about distinguishing between talking ABOUT people, and CALLING them names... Truly..

    excon
    After all these years of conservatives being called racists for daring to criticize Obama's policies or saying the word "golf" you would ask that question?
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    #353

    May 10, 2013, 08:10 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, you can't distinguish between golf and racism either... Figures..

    excon

    PS> Ok, I've got a minute... Again, this calls for some DISTINCTIONS... Golf is not the issue. Being called LAZY is. Romney spokesperson, Sununu flat out called him LAZY. You may not know that black people have been accused of being shiftless and LAZY for as long as they've been around... To equate black people to laziness is racism personified...

    Now, I don't know the particular circumstance you're speaking about, but if I called you a racist, it had NOTHING to do with golf.
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    #354

    May 10, 2013, 08:38 AM
    I know the difference between real racism and manufactured bullsh*t, which comprises the vast majority of liberal charges of racism AND everything this administration has said on the Benghazi attack. .
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    #355

    May 10, 2013, 09:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Being called LAZY is. Romney spokesperson, Sununu flat out called him LAZY. You may not know that black people have been accused of being shiftless and LAZY for as long as they've been around... To equate black people to laziness is racism personified...
    This is the perfect example of liberal racism. Calling an individual on a perceived character flaw is somehow transmogrified into insulting a group simply because the individual is tangentially related to that group. Isn't that the EXACT process used to build stereotypes?

    Whether Mr. Obama is lazy or is just enjoying the perks of his office is kind of beside the point, now that pointing out that he takes a lot of time off is called racism.
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    #356

    May 10, 2013, 09:34 AM
    To bring this discussion home.. . On the night of 9-11-12 ;while American embassies around the ummah were under siege (some ended with flying al Qaeda flags before the day was through) ;and an American ambassador was being assassinated by a jihadist attack ;the situtation room of the White House was unoccupied . WE know for a fact that the President of the United States ;the Commander in Chief ,the Chief Executive of the United States took a total of ONE phone call on the crisis ,and then headed off to bed while the crisis was on-going .
    I'll leave it to others to assign motives ;but that was the way it was on the night of 9-11-12 .
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    #357

    May 10, 2013, 10:23 AM
    And the left went after Bush on 9/11 when he finished what he was doing the next roughly 14 minutes with the children he was with... to not scare them.

    He didn't blow it off and go to bed.

    Never mind this was before we figured out it wasn't an accident. Unlike Benghazi where they knew immediately... Hell, I knew it had nothing to do with a you-tube video in a land most people don't have running water much less internet access to see it.
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    #358

    May 10, 2013, 11:03 AM
    Bush did a really good job protecting you didn't he? 3,000 dead americans later... I suspect people may have had an issue with that. Can you blame them?
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    #359

    May 10, 2013, 11:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Bush did a really good job protecting you didn't he? 3,000 dead americans later ... I suspect people may have had an issue with that. Can you blame them?
    I see you are still walking and breathing.

    Nobody protected me... I am still breathing ONLY because I was tired, hungry and crany that morning and didn't want to hang around like my Customers were asking me to, so their shift relief would know everything I knew.

    Of course a cold hearted Lefty like you wouldn't give a damn that both of them died not long after I left...

    Their names are engraved on the Memorial at the site along with many others.. I didn't know how many others that were there that night died... I only remembered or knew the names of two of them.
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    #360

    May 10, 2013, 11:17 AM
    Nothing you wrote has any bearing on what I wrote yet you quoted me. It's like you have an on-going monologue regardless on the topic.

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