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    #321

    Mar 31, 2010, 10:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It doesn't make sense at all. Some of my taxes gets taken off my paycheck for my universal health care. Mine.
    What am I getting free? Who's footing the bill?
    The people that make more than you do... who are paying more and not getting more. Because I will bet it's a percentage... and not a flat rate everyone pays the same for.
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    #322

    Mar 31, 2010, 10:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Because that county should pay higher taxes.. not lower. Or make do with less. We aren't just talking total dollars but actual tax rates as well being higher here.
    Okay, a county has lots of kids, big families, and builds big schools with lots of teachers. Twenty-five years pass and the county's population has dropped -- say, some new-to-the-county families have only one or two kids. In fact, the former large families are now parents who have become empty nesters, i.e. no kids, but still live in the county. What about those big schools with lots of teachers? The schools get torn down or redesigned for something else; the teachers find work elsewhere, in other schools or in private industry. Twenty-five years pass. The county's population booms. There is no room to build new schools because the farmland has filled up with homes and businesses. Then what?
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    #323

    Mar 31, 2010, 10:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I think you may require the help of a mental health professional.
    No, the liberals that think they are above criticism do... because they are so fond of dishing it out... and cry about it when anyone disagrees with them. News flash... you aren't the only one entitle to have an opinion, or voice it.

    Who died and left them in a position to be above criticism... and incidentally who is about being criticized or second guessed.


    The last person who actually was they hung on a cross over 2,000 years ago.

    And contrary to what certain democrats believe... he hasn't come back yet.
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    #324

    Mar 31, 2010, 10:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    The people that make more than you do.....who are paying more and not getting more. Because I will bet its a percentage...and not a flat rate everyone pays the same for.
    They don't care. They view it the same as me, they are contributing to their own healthcare fund.
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    #325

    Mar 31, 2010, 10:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    They don't care. They view it the same as me, they are contributing to their own healthcare fund.
    No... they care.and many don't like it either... but if they complain... you call it hate speech because it disagrees with you. Because I know some of them... they exist. It seams only Liberals are allowed to say anything in Canada... if anyone else disagrees, they call it hate speech.


    Yeah real nice... shows liberals for what they really are, intollerant, and perpatrators hof hate speech themselves.

    And the Canadaian system sucks... hundreds of thousands of medical visits to the USA from Canadians paying cash proves it. Our Doctors near the Border appreciate the business.
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    #326

    Mar 31, 2010, 10:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    No...they care.and many don't like it either...but if they complain...you call it hate speach because it disagrees with you.
    Dude you are psychotic! LOL!
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    #327

    Mar 31, 2010, 10:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Dude you are psychotic! LOL!
    Sorry, look in the mirror... you aren't Alice and this isn't Wonderland.
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    #328

    Apr 1, 2010, 08:13 AM

    Hello again, smoothy and the rest of you righty's:

    You DO remember, do you not, my discourse on the ILLEGAL wire tapping that the NSA has been conducting under BOTH Bush and Obama? You scoffed and pointed to your right wing lawyers who said, (contrary to the Fourth Amendment) we don't need no stinkin warrant.

    Guess what? Federal Judge Finds N.S.A. Wiretaps Were Illegal - NYTimes.com

    excon
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    #329

    Apr 1, 2010, 08:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Moms View Post
    Why can't we stop blaming Bush for everything. Obama was in the senate when the first bailout was passed. Obama has done so much worse than Bush. He's managed to spend more $$ in 18 months then all previous administrations combined.
    And none of those trillions will be used to pay down the debt.
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    #330

    Apr 1, 2010, 08:42 AM

    OK so we have a Federal judge declaring it illegal and I have a 2009 ruling by the FISC appellate court saying it wasn't . (post 178 )
    Intelligence Court Releases Ruling in Favor of Warrantless Wiretapping - washingtonpost.com

    So what happens when there are competing contradictory rulings on the same issue ?

    On to SCOTUS .

    Edit , had time to think about this during lunch... this San Fran judge gave Obama and Holder the cover they need . I will be surprised if they appeal now that they have the cover of a court ruling to dictate their course. It doesn't matter a lick that al Haramain is a well know AQ front organization who has a few members residing today in GITMO.
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    #331

    Apr 1, 2010, 09:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy and the rest of you righty's:

    You DO remember, do you not, my discourse on the ILLEGAL wire tapping that the NSA has been conducting under BOTH Bush and Obama?? You scoffed and pointed to your right wing lawyers who said, (contrary to the Fourth Amendment) we don't need no stinkin warrant.

    Guess what? Federal Judge Finds N.S.A. Wiretaps Were Illegal - NYTimes.com

    excon
    Do you NOT remember that occurred under Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter as well.

    Just because one idiot liberal Judge determined something doesn't mean jack squat. It isn't Final Until the Supreme court rules on it.
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    #332

    Apr 1, 2010, 10:17 AM

    More on al-Haramain...

    The United Nations, The United States, Great Britain as well as several other countries have all designated Al-Haramain as a terrorist entity; frozen and seized its funds where possible; and banned it from conducting business. Even so, Al-Haramain continues to operate in third-world countries and almost certainly continues to fund and promote radical Islamic extremism to this day.

    AQ used funding from this "charity" to blow up US Embassies in East Africa in the 1990s
    Al Qaeda Skimming Charity Money - CBS News

    They also funded the 2002 Bali bombing .
    Saudi princes linked to terror funds - theage.com.au

    The Treasury Dept in 2004 found direct links between this Oregon branch and OBL .
    JS-1895: U.S.-Based Branch of Al Haramain Foundation Linked to Terror<br>Treasury Designates U.S. Branch, Director
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    #333

    Apr 1, 2010, 10:47 AM

    One picture is woth a thousand words.
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    #334

    Apr 1, 2010, 10:59 AM

    The sign is grammatically incorrect. It should say "I own only a dollhouse." The mistake negates the message. Cute little girl, though.
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    #335

    Apr 1, 2010, 11:03 AM

    You got to love people who use their kids a props!
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    #336

    Apr 1, 2010, 11:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    You gotta love people who use their kids a props!
    No one will throw rotten tomatoes at a cute little girl.
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    #337

    Apr 1, 2010, 12:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    You gotta love people who use their kids a props!
    So... what exactly was not factual there? The left does exactly that every day... Obama does it all the time. Remember the woman he paraded around that claimed to be using her dead sisters false teeth.
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    #338

    Apr 1, 2010, 12:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    No one will throw rotten tomatoes at a cute little girl.
    Is a damn cute girl...
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    #339

    Apr 1, 2010, 12:41 PM

    You mean like in the opening video at the Copenhagen conference?

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    #340

    Apr 1, 2010, 12:53 PM

    Are you Obots out there comfortable with this bit of blasphemy? (The thread is "our president, right?)

    [VIDEO] Newsweek editor Jon Meacham: "Now that he's gotten health care through, President Obama's approval rating is up five points, and this really could save his presidency. You know, it's fitting that this happened so close to Easter, the time of resurrection, and with John Boehner and Mitch McConnell trying to play the part of Pontius Pilate and Caiaphas."
    Host Bill Maher: "Except I wouldn't want to insult Obama by comparing him to Jesus."
    — Bill Maher on his Real Time HBO show, April 1.

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