[talaniman]

The civil war didn't solve the slavery issue, it just changed the form of the slavery from chains to economic and social constraints.

[excon]

Hello tal:

The civil war didn't solve the slavery issue, it just changed the form of the slavery from chains to economic and social constraints.

Another GEM!

**greenie**

excon

[tomder55]

The civil war didn't solve the slavery issue, it just changed the form of the slavery from chains to economic and social constraints.

Yes I understand that the Dems like to keep the blacks in a permanent state of second class citizen dependent on the largess of the benevolent nanny state.

[Wondergirl]

Yes I understand that the Dems like to keep the blacks in a permanent state of second class citizen dependent on the largess of the benevolent nanny state.

What would the Republicans do with them?

[tomder55]

I know , conservative prescriptions are a hard sell against freebees.

[talaniman]

Yes I understand that the Dems like to keep the blacks in a permanent state of second class citizen dependent on the largess of the benevolent nanny state.

You make my point as now you equate second class citizens to poor people. Its republicans trying to constrain people by eliminating the one way ALL people are equal, and that's the VOTE.

Its republicans who wasted no time re enacting laws that were found by the court to be unconstitutional, and discriminatory so back to court we go. Poor people and minorities don't raise prices don't destroy unions, and don't send middle class jobs to places with no regulations or labor laws, while republicans deny food stamps to WORKING poor people.

Republicans deny a living wage and don't even tax the minimum wage job creators. Republicans rant as you have here about FREE STUFF, shut down governments and rail on about parks being closed to the public.

You push everyone into stagnant wages higher costs, and holler free stuff is no good? Your FREE stuff is SURVIVAL in today's times, and you wonder why more and more people just ain't listening to your ideas. I mean look around you and see every group but yours joining forces to open up that spigot you have turned down to less than a trickle, in the biggest economic failure of our time.

Hell even republicans are tired of being afraid of your extremist reactionary's and loony nuts threatening everybody with their INSANITY, and insensitivity.

How dare you assume that you know what's best for the rest. And good luck telling black folk about all that FREE stuff you want 'em to NOT get. What part of rejected did you not get from the last election?

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

conservative prescriptions are a hard sell against freebees.

In other words, you'd cut 'em loose.

excon

[tomder55]

In other words I'd get the government jack boot off their neck.

[Wondergirl]

In other words I'd get the government jack boot off their neck.

And then let them run wild and free? To what?

[excon]

Hello Carol:

In a nutshell, the right wing doesn't believe being on welfare provides an incentive to go to work. They believe HUNGER will.

excon

[Wondergirl]

Hello Carol:

In a nutshell, the right wing doesn't believe being on welfare provides an incentive to go to work. They believe HUNGER will.

excon

Beloved excon:

Where will they work?

Carol

[tomder55]

You make my point as now you equate second class citizens to poor people. Its republicans trying to constrain people by eliminating the one way ALL people are equal, and that's the VOTE.

Its republicans who wasted no time re enacting laws that were found by the court to be unconstitutional, and discriminatory so back to court we go. Poor people and minorities don't raise prices don't destroy unions, and don't send middle class jobs to places with no regulations or labor laws, while republicans deny food stamps to WORKING poor people.

Republicans deny a living wage and don't even tax the minimum wage job creators. Republicans rant as you have here about FREE STUFF, shut down governments and rail on about parks being closed to the public.

You push everyone into stagnant wages higher costs, and holler free stuff is no good? Your FREE stuff is SURVIVAL in today's times, and you wonder why more and more people just ain't listening to your ideas. I mean look around you and see every group but yours joining forces to open up that spigot you have turned down to less than a trickle, in the biggest economic failure of our time.

Hell even republicans are tired of being afraid of your extremist reactionary's and loony nuts threatening everybody with their INSANITY, and insensitivity.

How dare you assume that you know what's best for the rest. And good luck telling black folk about all that FREE stuff you want 'em to NOT get. What part of rejected did you not get from the last election?

it's not just "black folk" .You want everyone in that 2nd class status and by God you are achieving it ! Americans who were recipients of means-tested government benefits in 2011 outnumbered year round full time workers, according to the Census Bureau. In 35 states welfare pays more than a job . You incentivize people to NOT work . Disability claims are at record highs. Dependency is the new normal in this country . Even Clintoon recognized that was a prescription to disaster . But you embrace it .Then have the nerve to say that I'm the one who's keeping people down .

[excon]

My dearest Carol:

Where will they work?

Cutting right to the chase, huh? I dunno. Ask tom.

excon

[tomder55]

And then let them run wild and free? To what?

Yeah free... like free enterprise zones where job creating companies can start up without the myriad of road blocks government puts up .

[Wondergirl]

Yeah free... like free enterprise zones where job creating companies can start up without the myriad of road blocks government puts up .

In which country does this happen -- where the poor are hired by these companies?

[talaniman]

it's not just "black folk" .You want everyone in that 2nd class status and by God you are achieving it ! Americans who were recipients of means-tested government benefits in 2011 outnumbered year round full time workers, according to the Census Bureau. In 35 states welfare pays more than a job . You incentivize people to NOT work . Disability claims are at record highs. Dependency is the new normal in this country . Even Clintoon recognized that was a prescription to disaster . But you embrace it .Then have the never to say that I'm the one who's keeping people down .

Whose fault is it that welfare pays more than work? Why do you ignore completely the situation that made everybody lose their jobs. The recession ain't over yet but you want to pretend it is.

And being poor citizen isn't a 2nd class, but guys like you say they are. And you try to treat them like they are.

Go ahead keep calling people lazy bums but ask yourself why the government has to subsidize people who work for the biggest companies in the world. What's wrong with that picture?

[tomder55]

In which country does this happen -- where the poor are hired by these companies?

I'm talking about the poor being the start up . Like it used to be before government prevented all but the well off from opening their own business,

As to your question What company hires poor folks now ? Walmart hires them by the thousands . But liberal bastions like NYC won't let Walmart open there

[tomder55]

Whose fault is it that welfare pays more than work? Why do you ignore completely the situation that made everybody lose their jobs. The recession ain't over yet but you want to pretend it is.

The question you should be asking is why isn't the recession over yet .

Go ahead keep calling people lazy bums

I am not calling them out . I'm calling out the government that prefers them dependent to government largess and does everything possible to disincentive them to find work . You are full of it . Next week you will be telling me why we have to have illegal aliens ,so they can do the work Americans won't .

[Wondergirl]

I'm talking about the poor being the start up . Like it used to be before government prevented all but the well off from opening their own business

Where do the poor get money for starting up?

As to your question What company hires poor folks now ? Walmart hires them by the thousands . But liberal bastions like NYC won't let Walmart open there

And the pay and benefits at Walmart are?

[tomder55]

Where do the poor get money for starting up?

And the pay and benefits at Walmart are?

Yeah I know... there is no answer except keeping them perpetually in the dependency of the state . But I knew that was the Dems only answer. JFK once said 'a rising tide lifts all boats '. He would not recognize his party's zero sum game today .