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    Jun 5, 2014, 08:14 AM
    If you think the right is hollering now, stay tuned as their numbers keep shrinking and their power and entitlement influences keep dwindling, and they find that others they have denied rights too are demanding theirs. That's what happens when you have lorded over others you have always deemed less than you and demanded they assimilate to your liking, and start placing the same demand on you as they exercise THEIR rights.

    There is the hard way of doing this diversity thing, and an easier way... shame they choose the hard noisy way. Changes NOTHING!

    They will be assimilated into the 21st century, and like the last civil war, they will lose. Fighting change and calling names is what they do, and all the hollering won't change that. So holler and scream about your rights and our faults Smoothy my friend, and call all the names you want but please get the hell out of the way because we are coming through.

    I only say please as a courtesy.
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    #242

    Jun 5, 2014, 08:17 AM
    You mean as opposed to the supposed SURGING numbers of lefties and those who love Obama? Despite any proof its actually happening like that? And all the proof to the contrary...
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    #243

    Jun 5, 2014, 08:23 AM
    The last two national elections, and the right wing freakout, are proof enough.
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    #244

    Jun 5, 2014, 08:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The last two national elections, and the right wing freakout, are proof enough.
    No... it proved the Democrat party thinks nothing of committing massive voter fraud...

    And even with all the fraud... they still barely pulled a majority. That's why the left fears a photo votor ID... it would squash most voter fraud.
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    #245

    Jun 5, 2014, 12:26 PM
    It's true that most mass shooters seem to be under 25. I think another good law would be a minimum net worth of 250k for anyone to own a gun. Most mass shooters seem to be lower class and have nothing to lose so I think the net worth requirement would help keep guns out of the hands of angry losers. Some might call it discrimination but I say if you need a minimum income to get a credit card, why not for a deadly weapon. Sadly, Canada just had a mass shooting in Moncton, New Brunswick. 3 RCMP officers are dead and 2 others seriously hurt. Not surprisingly, the shooter, who is still at large is a 24 year old loser\weirdo known for disturbing internet posts and strange behavior.
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    #246

    Jun 5, 2014, 12:57 PM
    The early 20s is often when mental illness rears its ugly head.
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    #247

    Jun 5, 2014, 03:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Hardly... but then... you have a far different and lower expectation of what you call freedom than we have. And you never had the enumerated rights that we have. We have rights... you have things your polititians allow you to have for the moment... always subject to be taken away on a whim.

    Absolute nonsense.

    Would you like to expand on our lack of expectations in the area of freedom and rights?
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    #248

    Jun 5, 2014, 03:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Hardly... but then... you have a far different and lower expectation of what you call freedom than we have. And you never had the enumerated rights that we have. We have rights... you have things your polititians allow you to have for the moment... always subject to be taken away on a whim.

    You have the advantage at keeping the illegals out by virtue of having a whopper of a natural moat around your country.
    as I said earlier ignorance and indoctrination. Our political system works pretty well to stop politicians whims, your rights haven't stopped assassinations in your country but we have only once ever come close to what could be called an assassination. You made a statement earlier that we cannot own guns, that is not true, we can own guns but certain types of weapons are restricted and the manner in which they can be used is also restricted. look, John Howard stated the other day that he doubted that he could enact the gun laws today that were enacted in the last decade but that has to do with the mood of the electorate not rights and it comes with the hindsight that tthe electorate no longer faces the threat of unbridled gun violence.

    As to our moat, yes it is nice, but you may have noticed it doesn't stop those who would take an illegal route, but harsh laws on incarcaration does, a convienence for those politicians
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    #249

    Jun 5, 2014, 04:18 PM
    Smoothy


    Still waiting for you to tell us about how our Constitution works and how this creates "lower" expectations.
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    #250

    Jun 5, 2014, 04:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    as I said earlier ignorance and indoctrination. Our political system works pretty well to stop politicians whims, your rights haven't stopped assassinations in your country but we have only once ever come close to what could be called an assassination. You made a statement earlier that we cannot own guns, that is not true, we can own guns but certain types of weapons are restricted and the manner in which they can be used is also restricted. look, John Howard stated the other day that he doubted that he could enact the gun laws today that were enacted in the last decade but that has to do with the mood of the electorate not rights and it comes with the hindsight that tthe electorate no longer faces the threat of unbridled gun violence.

    As to our moat, yes it is nice, but you may have noticed it doesn't stop those who would take an illegal route, but harsh laws on incarcaration does, a convienence for those politicians
    As I said... people who never had a particular right themselves... can't fathom why people that do won't give them up without one hell of a fight.
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    #251

    Jun 5, 2014, 04:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    Smoothy


    Still waiting for you to tell us about how our Constitution works and how this creates "lower" expectations.
    Near total lack of any guaranteed rights... plain and simple.

    Get enough voting Muslims into your country... and they can vote to turn it into yet another Muslim hell on earth. And you have no protections from it happening.
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    Jun 5, 2014, 04:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    No... it proved the Democrat party thinks nothing of committing massive voter fraud...

    And even with all the fraud... they still barely pulled a majority. That's why the left fears a photo votor ID... it would squash most voter fraud.
    Sheriff not buying stories from McDaniel staffer, others locked in courthouse on election night

    What did you say about quacking like a duck?

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Near total lack of any guaranteed rights... plain and simple.

    Get enough voting Muslims into your country... and they can vote to turn it into yet another Muslim hell on earth. And you have no protections from it happening.
    Latinos will take over first but they are Christians so it's okay. Oh wait you don't like them either. Can't wait until you are a minority hollering about YOUR rights. Then you might figure out that you aren't the ONLY one with guaranteed rights.

    How do you live with all your phobias? Present ones and future ones.
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    #253

    Jun 5, 2014, 05:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Sheriff not buying stories from McDaniel staffer, others locked in courthouse on election night

    What did you say about quacking like a duck?



    Latinos will take over first but they are Christians so it's okay. Oh wait you don't like them either. Can't wait until you are a minority hollering about YOUR rights. Then you might figure out that you aren't the ONLY one with guaranteed rights.

    How do you live with all your phobias? Present ones and future ones.

    Latinos are swarming Autrailia? Must be the more well off ones that can afford the air fare, and leaky boats won't get them that far. We get the ones that can't even afford a beat up car....Clete said they have massive issues with the Muslim horde coming in boats from Malaysia.

    And Incidently....contrary to what Obama claims since he has proven to have ZERO grasp of the law.....probibly why he lost his Liscense to practice law a long , long time ago... Illegals don't NOT have the right to violate our laws and cross our borders. Latino or otherwise. Or the RIGHT to be here.
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    #254

    Jun 5, 2014, 05:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    As I said... people who never had a particular right themselves... can't fathom why people that do won't give them up without one hell of a fight.
    No it isn't that at all, you have the idea that freedom must be defended with a gun even when there isn't any threat to freedom. You fail to see that the right to life is a much superior inalienable right than the right to own a gun, but noone suggests you shouldn't be able to own a gun, they just want the type of weapon restricted and who can own it restricted so that you don't continue to have these mass shootings of innocent people. You don't give criminals the right to roam the streets molesting at will, and yet they have a right to 'freedom". Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness has a price, one you are not prepared to pay, you see there are some important concepts that predate what was an afterthought in your constitution
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    Jun 5, 2014, 05:28 PM
    LOL, Smoothy, I was talking about Latinos who are legal and citizens. Just like you.

    U.S.-Born Latino Population Growing At Faster Rate Than Foreign-Born, Reversing Longtime Trend | Fox News Latino

    The study also showed that the states with the largest Latino populations are: California, with 14.5 million, Texas, with 10 million, Florida, with 4.5 million, New York, with 3.6 million, and Illinois, with 2.1 million.
    The five states with the fastest-growing Latino populations are Tennessee, South Carolina, Alabama, Kentucky and South Dakota.
    Hope you quack in Spanish. You do know minorities have as much rights as you do don't you?
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    #256

    Jun 5, 2014, 05:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    probibly why he lost his Liscense to practice law a long , long time ago...
    This is incorrect: Barack Obama did not "surrender" his law license. Like Michelle, Barack Obama had no need for an active law license for the work in which he was engaged, so in February 2007 (after announcing his candidacy for the presidency) he chose to have his law license placed on “voluntarily inactive” status, and after becoming president he opted to change his status to “voluntarily retired.” Neither of the Obamas was irrevocably stripped of their law licenses through the action of "surrendering" them.

    Read more at snopes.com: Barack and Michelle Obama's Law Licenses


    Q: Did Barack and Michelle Obama “surrender” their law licenses to avoid ethics charges?

    A: No. A court official confirms that no public disciplinary proceeding has ever been brought against either of them, contrary to a false Internet rumor. By voluntarily inactivating their licenses, they avoid a requirement to take continuing education classes and pay hundreds of dollars in annual fees. Both could practice law again if they chose to do so.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/the...-law-licenses/
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    #257

    Jun 5, 2014, 05:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Latinos are swarming Autrailia? Must be the more well off ones that can afford the air fare, and leaky boats won't get them that far. We get the ones that can't even afford a beat up car....Clete said they have massive issues with the Muslim horde coming in boats from Malaysia.
    WHAT? can't say latino's persee are a problem and we might like them better than Iranians and Indian's and Iraqi and Pakistani who are Muslim, not Christian and yes they are in plague proportions ask Indonesia which is a transit country

    And Incidently....contrary to what Obama claims since he has proven to have ZERO grasp of the law.....probibly why he lost his Liscense to practice law a long , long time ago... Illegals don't NOT have the right to violate our laws and cross our borders. Latino or otherwise. Or the RIGHT to be here.
    It appears Obama gave up his licence to practice law, you don't need one when you are apolitician, more's the pity.. For the record noone has the right to violate your laws, must be the only right that wasn't put in the Bill of Rights. I guess having a Bill of Rights doesn't protect you from illegal immigration and lawbreakers, strange about that. mightas well repeal it as redundant.
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    #258

    Jun 5, 2014, 06:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Near total lack of any guaranteed rights... plain and simple.

    The only thing that is simple is your commentary on Australian and US Constitutional law. For some reason you want to demonstrate a lack of knowledge in terms of Australian and US Constitutional issues,yet you seem happy to come back with the same simplistic arguments time and time again. Why is that?

    When it comes to federal elections we have high expectations in terms of free and fair elections. We don't have a system whereby elections can be "stolen by massive fraud". This is your argument smoothy, we see it posted here time and time again.

    So talk to me about your high expectations and our low expectations.

    I didn't repeat your last paragraph because I want to treat it with the contempt it deserves.
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    #259

    Jun 5, 2014, 06:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    WHAT? can't say latino's persee are a problem and we might like them better than Iranians and Indian's and Iraqi and Pakistani who are Muslim, not Christian and yes they are in plague proportions ask Indonesia which is a transit country



    It appears Obama gave up his licence to practice law, you don't need one when you are apolitician, more's the pity.. For the record noone has the right to violate your laws, must be the only right that wasn't put in the Bill of Rights. I guess having a Bill of Rights doesn't protect you from illegal immigration and lawbreakers, strange about that. mightas well repeal it as redundant.

    THe problem we have is a Democrat party that commits so much fraud on elections it makes the "elections" of the Soviet Union and Under Hugo Chavez appear legitimate.

    Only a fool hands over their law license just because they go into politics... if they ever left office they would need to pass the BAR again to practice... The majority of lawyers that go into politics don't give them up, they keep them. Its like surrendering your drivers license because you got elected and are chauffeured around... they didn't hand those over too. And they both handed them over under suspicious circumstances.
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    Jun 5, 2014, 06:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    The only thing that is simple is your commentary on Australian and US Constitutional law. For some reason you want to demonstrate a lack of knowledge in terms of Australian and US Constitutional issues,yet you seem happy to come back with the same simplistic arguments time and time again. Why is that?

    When it comes to federal elections we have high expectations in terms of free and fair elections. We don't have a system whereby elections can be "stolen by massive fraud". This is your argument smoothy, we see it posted here time and time again.

    So talk to me about your high expectations and our low expectations.

    I didn't repeat your last paragraph because I want to treat it with the contempt it deserves.

    How about taking a long hard look in the mirror... over your own numerous pompous posts, proclaiming expertise on OUR constitution and its laws... Have you ever even visisted this country much less lived here?

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