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smoothy · Jun 3, 2014, 06:17 PM

I agree make them move to the jobs... Most of the college grads where I'm from had to move to find work. I came to that conclusion before I graduated college, and I moved to the work. There is work to be had, you might have to move to find it. But thre are some people that flat out prefer to be unemployed than to move. THose that CAN'T move for one reason or other are a minority of them.

paraclete · Jun 3, 2014, 06:18 PM

Of course, it is easier to teach "computer skills" and have kids waste their time looking things up on the internet, all we have now are thousands who's only skill is plagerism

smoothy · Jun 3, 2014, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Of course, it is easier to teach "computer skills" and have kids waste their time looking things up on the internet, all we have now are thousands who's only skill is plagerism

And they would break out in a rash if they got their hands dirty or had to sweat.

paraclete · Jun 3, 2014, 08:49 PM

yes I wonder what jobs require the ability to access Facebook

talaniman · Jun 4, 2014, 06:11 AM

How about being able to access the companies intranet. Computer literacy and competence is a first step in most 21st century jobs, and has been for decades as technology has boomed and manual labor has declined. New skills are indeed needed, by old and the young.

Get with the program. Grocery stores are becoming even more automated.

paraclete · Jun 4, 2014, 06:14 AM

I don't need to get with the program Tal I have a degree in computing, I was with the program before you knew there was a program. What I know is this kids don't need to be taught computers in grade school, that is B/S

talaniman · Jun 4, 2014, 06:50 AM

There you go again. You and smoothy bloviating about how you got yours but in facts these kids are smarter than you or I and have been exposed already to new technology and NEED to be educated, taught, and groomed for the skills of now, and not held back by the thinking of yesterday's ego tripping.

Just wrap your head around the fact that kids today HAVE to be smarter than we were just to clean up the mess we made. LOL, even the plumbers and pipefitters have to be somewhat computer skilled nowadays, and digging a ditch no longer requires just a shovel because one guy can dig on hell of a ditch with new tools in the time you dug your hole with a shovel.

Get with the program Clete, as even your computer skills could stand to be dusted off a bit as there is much more for YOU (and me) to learn. You are hardly at the top of the pinnacle, but as far as your thinking can take you. You can't just sit and whine with Smoothy about everybody else, more can be, and has to be done.

paraclete · Jun 4, 2014, 07:02 AM

what a load of claptrap and old , the kids arn't any smarter, I see no indications of that, that they have learned something about technology I see as a case of monkeys with IBM typewriters. Everything is incremental. Facebook and Twitter don't need smarts infact they are for the very dumb. You think my computer skills need updating, that goes for everyone about every five years, fact is I don't need to handshake with FRED anymore than I already do. I look around and what do I see, posers carrying tablets and Iphones and Ipods, making like they are important enough not to put the thing down for five minutes

smoothy · Jun 4, 2014, 07:04 AM

These losers might or might not be smarter than you... but they sure as hell aren't smarter than me or clete... or they wouldn't be sitting unemployed in their mommas house whining about how there are no jobs.

If they had any intelligence or any motivation... they would find a job... or create their own job by starting a business to fill a need that someone else isn't already doing, or doing it better than someone who already is.

That's how its always been done... if they were so freakin smart.. they should have figured it out like all of our ancestors did. Or is it they really are a bunch of dim bulbs?

Anyone who knows more than the average person... has a better grasp on what they do actually know... and how much there is to learn. The average high school or college graduate believe they have learned everything they need already... when in fact just the opposite is true... the learning they will need to get through life is just beginning at that point.

tomder55 · Jun 4, 2014, 08:08 AM

it's our fault. We've conditioned them to be dependent to get their a$$es wiped by either their parent ,or the government .

paraclete · Jun 4, 2014, 04:01 PM

Yes it is your fault, what are you going to do about it

tomder55 · Jun 4, 2014, 04:17 PM

not more of the same.

paraclete · Jun 4, 2014, 06:26 PM

not more of the same

Does this mean you want to see gun reform?

smoothy · Jun 4, 2014, 07:20 PM

We can discuss it only after the liberals give up their freedom of speech first. The first amendment is no more important than the second. Take away the second and there is absolutely nothing stopping the rest from being taken away. History has proven that time and time again.

Meglomaniacs like Obama would declare themselves King for life...and his minions would kill anyone who opposed it if the population was disarmed. He's already shown 6.5 years and complete diregard of the law...and his minions fight to keep him from being charged with his numerous crimes. He won't be in office much longer....and the statute of limitations hasn't expired for most of them. So he might still be charged yet.

The good thing is we aren't disarmed....and an armed public would not stand for anyone declaring themselves king.

paraclete · Jun 4, 2014, 09:18 PM

pure paranoia, I live in a democracy where it is not necessary to enforce democracy at the point of a gun, one of our retired politicians said recently he was glad we did not have the complication of a Bill of Rights, I see no rabid response in the media or anywhereelse, ours is an ordered society based on fairness, yours is a society based on rights, as to order, I leave that for you to judge

smoothy · Jun 5, 2014, 05:20 AM

Well. I'm glad I don't live in a place that doesn't respect people rights to own weapons and to defend themselves.. when there police and militart have plenty. As well as the criminal element.

You also don't have Obama votors... who tend to be devoid of any moral compass and feel they are entitled to what others have worked hard to earn.

NeedKarma · Jun 5, 2014, 07:05 AM

You also don't have Obama votors... who tend to be devoid of any moral compass

These statements can only be made by real idiots.

paraclete · Jun 5, 2014, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Well. I'm glad I don't live in a place that doesn't respect people rights to own weapons and to defend themselves.. when there police and militart have plenty. As well as the criminal element.

You also don't have Obama votors... who tend to be devoid of any moral compass and feel they are entitled to what others have worked hard to earn.

Once again you show your ignorance and your indoctrination.

There is more respect for people's rights here than there is where you live, we start with the right to live safe, peaceful lives not intimidated by the gun, we don't have large police forces and we don't have a large military. Today there was an incident in a major city, it didn't result in a gun battle.

You want to talk about a criminal element, your access to weapons breeds it. We have plenty of people on welfare, but we also have low unemployment, we all understand that, there but for the grace of God go I, and while we want them to be responsible, we are not keen to penalise them as you do. Unfortunately some of your ideas are slipping by the net, we can keep illegal immigrants out but we can't keep bad ideas out

smoothy · Jun 5, 2014, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

These statements can only be made by real idiots.

No... only a real idiot can't understand what it means.

smoothy · Jun 5, 2014, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Once again you show your ignorance and your indoctrination.

There is more respect for people's rights here than there is where you live, we start with the right to live safe, peaceful lives not intimidated by the gun, we don't have large police forces and we don't have a large military. Today there was an incident in a major city, it didn't result in a gun battle.

You want to talk about a criminal element, your access to weapons breeds it. We have plenty of people on welfare, but we also have low unemployment, we all understand that, there but for the grace of God go I, and while we want them to be responsible, we are not keen to penalise them as you do. Unfortunately some of your ideas are slipping by the net, we can keep illegal immigrants out but we can't keep bad ideas out

Hardly... but then... you have a far different and lower expectation of what you call freedom than we have. And you never had the enumerated rights that we have. We have rights... you have things your polititians allow you to have for the moment... always subject to be taken away on a whim.

You have the advantage at keeping the illegals out by virtue of having a whopper of a natural moat around your country.