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    Feb 21, 2013, 08:20 AM
    Requires the President by October 15, 2012, to transmit to Congress a legislative proposal that meets such requirements

    Translation-"Here mr. Prez we combined the sequester cuts together and you decide what to do about it. Ball in your court.".

    A better bill I think is a one liner... The sequester has been cancelled until further notice!
    Translation... set your budget priorities Mr Chief Executive ,do your f'n job... or stop blocking ours.

    Bring the sequester on .Your solution is for them to accept the tax increases they've already conceded without any reciprocal concession by the President... It isn't happening .
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    #222

    Feb 21, 2013, 08:25 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    But his campaign to blame the Repubics is transparently bogus.
    The polls say otherwise. His destruction of the right wing is almost complete.

    I'm LOVING it. I'm going to have to read this Alinsky guy.

    Excon
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    Feb 21, 2013, 08:34 AM
    Amazon.com: Rules for Radicals (9780679721130): Saul Alinsky: Books
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    #224

    Feb 21, 2013, 08:34 AM
    Apparently you love being a puppet, ex.
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    #225

    Feb 21, 2013, 09:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Translation ... set your budget priorities Mr Chief Executive ,do your f'n job ...or stop blocking ours.

    Bring the sequester on .Your solution is for them to accept the tax increases they've already conceded without any reciprocal concession by the President ... It aint happening .
    Lets play hardball! You guys have so now that's what you get from our side. And nobody cares about Saul Alinsky, just you guys who were afraid of him back in the day.
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    #226

    Feb 22, 2013, 04:52 AM
    That's what our so called Chief Executive is doing... wallowing in his hubris.

    President Barack Obama's greatest adversary in the latest budget battle isn't the Republican leadership in Congress — it's his confidence in his own ability to force a win.

    He has been so certain of his campaign skills that he didn't open a line of communication with House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell until Thursday, a week before the spending ax hits. And when they did finally hear from Obama, the calls were perfunctory, with no request to step up negotiations or invitations to the White House.


    That's because Obama's all-in on an outside strategy, doing just about everything other than holding serious talks with Republicans. In the last two days alone, he's courted local TV anchors, called in a select group of White House correspondents to talk off-the-record, chatted up black broadcasters, and announced plans to stump next week at Virginia's Newport News Shipyard. Throughout, he's talked in tough terms that signal little interest in compromise — or suggestion of backing down.

    He's navigating a thin line. Obama is convinced he's got the upper hand on Republicans. Yet he can go only so long before he risks being perceived as a main actor in Washington's dysfunction, threatening a core element of his political brand — and the fragile economic recovery he's struggled to maintain.
    The calls placed Thursday to Boehner and McConnell were prompted, in part, by a White House desire to inoculate Obama from that exact criticism.
    Is Obama overplaying sequester hand? - Carrie Budoff Brown and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com
    Yet he can go only so long before he risks being perceived as a main actor in Washington's dysfunction,??
    Too late ,that horse is already out of the barn . He is the MAIN ACTOR in the government dysfunction.
    And by the way Politico... there is no"fragile economic recovery " to mainain.. there is no recovery under his watch. Sorry Emperor Zero ,if you can't make the government work with $3.4 trillion then you aren't up to the job.
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    Feb 22, 2013, 05:09 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    He is the MAIN ACTOR in the government dysfunction.
    It may be so. But, if it works to DESTROY your party, I'm for it.

    What?? Right wingers didn't try to destroy him?? They DID indeed. They thought they'd destroy him, and we'd be an all right wing government... Guess what?? I didn't work, and we're going to be a LEFT wing government..

    Payback is a b1tch isn't it?

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    #228

    Feb 22, 2013, 05:22 AM
    Well here comes mediocre government because if you have no wish for it to work it won't, and what you will get is a mediocre third world country. Somewhere ex you have to realise that yesterday is yesterday and the republicans have to realise the same. If I read what is going on over there you are losing the ability to defend yourselves just because of a little girl hissy spat over I don't get to say what's going on. Get over it, PLEASE GROW UP!
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    #229

    Feb 22, 2013, 05:43 AM
    We are losing nothing despite the bleatings of Zero and General O. Everyone in America has had to make decisions on budgets sometimes slashed much deeper than 2% of projected increases in spending . If the military has to scramble now it's because that useless piece of human flesh ,Leon Panetta ,took a paid job as Director of DOD and did NOTHING as far as budget priorities for over a year !
    Zero is fond of executive orders... Here's one for him... "As of March 1st I order every Dept in the Federal Government to spend 2% less and prepare a budget to trim 10% by the end of my term. If you don't think you are capable of it then submit your resignation NOW . "
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    #230

    Feb 22, 2013, 05:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    It may be so. But, if it works to DESTROY your party, I'm for it.

    What??? Right wingers didn't try to destroy him??? They DID indeed. They thought they'd destroy him, and we'd be an all right wing government.... Guess what??? I didn't work, and we're gonna be a LEFT wing government..

    Payback is a b1tch isn't it?

    excon
    Happy Purim .
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    #231

    Feb 22, 2013, 05:49 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    Happy Purim .
    Thanks. When's the draft?

    Excon
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    #232

    Feb 22, 2013, 07:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    It may be so. But, if it works to DESTROY your party, I'm for it.

    excon
    Though I agree with that sentiment I'm still not tom.
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    #233

    Feb 22, 2013, 07:21 AM
    Hello again, tom/Steve:

    I'm still not tom.
    I don't know. You're pretty indistinguishable.

    Excon
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    #234

    Feb 22, 2013, 07:36 AM
    You mean similar. I'm the one that wins at baseball, he wins football - which should be just the opposite.
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    #235

    Feb 22, 2013, 07:37 AM
    By the way, you know who's protecting corporate jet owners? Democrats.
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    #236

    Feb 22, 2013, 07:45 AM
    Hello again, Steve/tom:

    Those bastards!

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    #237

    Feb 22, 2013, 08:33 AM
    Congressional Progressive Caucus : The People's Budget

    The good plans are NOT under consideration.
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    Feb 22, 2013, 08:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Congressional Progressive Caucus : The People's Budget

    The good plans are NOT under consideration.
    Sounds like a plan the Senate could vote on .
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    Feb 22, 2013, 09:02 AM
    Lol all it is is tax increases and gutting the military . Yeah that's a plan!!
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    #240

    Feb 22, 2013, 09:09 AM
    On Pennsylvania Avenue, right near the end, there lived a President who wanted to spend.

    He knew spending meant power, so hour by hour, he thought up more spends from his Washington tower.

    “I’ll spend without limits; I’ll spend without blame! Raising taxes to pay—that’s the name of the game.”



    Down the street, though, a House filled with thriftier folk had a budget to pass, or the country’d go broke. “We can’t spend all day; we’ve got bills to pay! Let’s keep deficits and higher taxes away.”

    The Senate next door to the House just refused. “We don’t like your budget. We’ve got some bad news: The President says we can spend all we want, and we’ll simply raise taxes whenever we choose.”

    So they spent and they spent and they borrowed some more. And when all that was spent, they spent same as before.

    But not everyone thought the spending was nice. In the House and the Senate, some spenders thought twice. “We’ll cut down on spending. We have a bad feeling…” then—SMACK!—right on schedule, they hit the debt ceiling.

    Then the President’s office, confronted with debt: “If it’s cuts they want now, then it’s cuts they shall get. We’ll threaten such cuts that NO one would take, and show them that cuts are not smart to make.”

    “This will make Congress move. We’ll just float out a tester… broad, haphazard cuts that we’ll call the sequester.”

    The Senate and even the House said, “Okay! That will motivate us to find a good way. We’ll figure this out and stave off those cuts—to allow them to happen, we’d have to be nuts.”

    So the deadline was set, but the spending went on. A year and a half had soon come and gone. The House passed a budget; the Senate said no; the President very much enjoyed the show.


    Spend higher! Spend faster! Grow the welfare rolls! Soon, love for the spending will show up in the polls.” He even raised taxes, but it wasn’t enough—the levels of spending grew too fast to keep up.

    “Don’t you mind the sequester,” he told Capitol Hill. “You said you would fix it, and I’m sure you will.”

    But they could not agree on ways to cut spending, and before they knew it, the sequester was pending.

    “Oh no!” they all cried. “We can’t let these cuts stand!”

    And the President said, “WHO thought of this terrible plan?”

    They didn’t remember his plan all along. He distracted them with his spending-cut song. Now he returned to save them from harm, and to keep them forgetting all but his charm.

    So the President said with a glint in his eye, “You tried to cut spending. I saw how you tried. But it’s just too painful—I’m sure you can see. From the beginning, you should have listened to me.”

    “I’ll save you all from the spend-cutters’ axes. You see, the solution is just to raise taxes.”

    Original artwork by Glenn Foden.
    The Story of the Sequester, in the Style of Dr. Seuss

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