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    #221

    Aug 16, 2012, 10:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Now THAT'S a talking point. That argument has been thoroughly refuted here as well.
    So why have a voter ID law?
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    Aug 16, 2012, 10:37 AM
    The Pew Center published a study in February that found that 24 million voter registrations in the United States are either invalid or contain significant errors. Almost 2 million dead people are still on the rolls, and nearly 3 million people are registered in two or more states. An organization known as True the Vote recently reported there are 160 counties where more people are registered to vote than there are eligible voters.
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    Aug 16, 2012, 10:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The Pew Center published a study in Febuary that found that 24 million voter registrations in the United States are either invalid or contain significant errors. Almost 2 million dead people are still on the rolls, and nearly 3 million people are registered in two or more states. An organization known as True the Vote recently reported there are 160 counties where more people are registered to vote than there are eligible voters.
    What are the Republicans doing about this?
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    #224

    Aug 16, 2012, 10:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    So why have a voter ID law?
    Because elections aren't meaningless. Shall we start this silly circle all over again or are y'all going to find something relevant to argue?
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    #225

    Aug 16, 2012, 11:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Because elections aren't meaningless.
    Ah, there you go! One candidate might get more votes than the other?
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    #226

    Aug 16, 2012, 11:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Ah, there ya go! One candidate might get more votes than the other?
    I think someone getting more valid votes than the other is the general idea of an election.
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    #227

    Aug 16, 2012, 11:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I think someone getting more valid votes than the other is the general idea of an election.
    Ah, yes, more valid because of ?
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    #228

    Aug 16, 2012, 11:47 AM
    I knew you'd just start this silly circle all over again. You can follow it around again on your own starting here. And before your next question, if maintaining the integrity of the vote means my guy loses it means my guy loses. I played by the rules, it's not fair for my vote to be canceled out by fraud.
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    #229

    Aug 16, 2012, 11:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I knew you'd just start this silly circle all over again. You can follow it around again on your own starting here. And before your next question, if maintaining the integrity of the vote means my guy loses it means my guy loses. I played by the rules, it's not fair for my vote to be canceled out by fraud.
    There isn't any record of fraud as being a problem.
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    #230

    Aug 16, 2012, 12:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    There isn't any record of fraud as being a problem.
    Again, around and around we go. That talking point has already been shown here to be without merit.
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    #231

    Aug 16, 2012, 12:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Again, around and around we go. That talking point has already been shown here to be without merit.
    So you agree there is no need for voter ID laws.
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    #232

    Aug 16, 2012, 01:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    So you agree there is no need for voter ID laws.
    In light of what I've said that response makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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    #233

    Aug 16, 2012, 01:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    In light of what I've said that response makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
    It was sarcasm.
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    #234

    Aug 16, 2012, 01:54 PM
    No, it was provocation.
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    #235

    Aug 16, 2012, 02:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No, it was provocation.
    Nope. I don't do provocation.
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    #236

    Aug 16, 2012, 03:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    So you agree there is no need for voter ID laws.
    You are right you know, its just a ploy to deny people the right to vote
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    #237

    Aug 16, 2012, 04:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    you are right you know, its just a ploy to deny people the right to vote
    I know. :D

    Maybe we need a law that Republicans have to wear a purple and white striped pullover shirt in order to vote on Election Day. (The stripes can be either vertical or horizontal--we'll make it easy that way, but polo, not t-shirt.)
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    #238

    Aug 16, 2012, 05:17 PM
    If you are worried about electoral fraud all you do is do what they do in the third world, dip a finger in indelliable ink surely we are smart enough now to give a voter a card with a bar code on it and you can immediately check their bonafides and make sure they don't vote twice. For the people who automated the count you are sure slow on the uptake
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    #239

    Aug 16, 2012, 09:31 PM
    This wouldn't be as big an issue except for the partisan part of it, especially with the crap in Ohio, or the early voter restrictions that made for some awful long lines (HOURS TO VOTE?) in the past.

    Now if they were serious about a legit election, they would have thought of a simpler solution than make obstacles.

    Here's how to stop voter suppression - Tampa Bay Times

    Talk about the intent of the founders, maybe we question the intent of our leaders.
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    #240

    Aug 17, 2012, 05:54 AM
    You could ensure a federal jurisdiction, where the same rules are applied to all, makes sense you know, just as it took federal law to make civil rights work

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