[tomder55]

not me . You were the one who changed topics. btw ;the best place for the flag is in museums and in the nostalgic celebrations of the losers .


As for the Islamic State ;they will be defeated when the world get's tired of their attrocities.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3733085

[paraclete]

So not anytime soon then it has just turned into another horror movie

[tomder55]

So not anytime soon then it has just turned into another horror movie

yes it's true . That is why they are devising new creative ways to murder . They drowned some guys recently ..they also put an exploding necklace on another. They will be dealt with when they get stronger and becomes more than a regional threat. The lessons of history ignored again.

[paraclete]

Meanwhile, terror spreads elsewhere

ABC offices in security lockdown after threats following Q&A Zaky Mallah episode

This is the result of pandering to terrorists

[paraclete]

There is much controversy about the PM's gaff in allowing sensitive security maps to be featured in a press conference at ASIO but we shouldn't have worried all it identified is what we already knew, where the Muslins are concentrated, however intelligence is a little off as ever since there are denser concentrations to the south



I wonder, did they mistake the indian population for Muslims? these guys all look alike

[paraclete]

No wishing to be out of the headlines for long Daesh has struck in multiple places and in deadly ways, but honestly, is someone asleep out there?

[tomder55]

yes it's true . That is why they are devising new creative ways to murder . They drowned some guys recently ..they also put an exploding necklace on another. They will be dealt with when they get stronger and becomes more than a regional threat. The lessons of history ignored again.

Here's a new twist ..... beheading for sorcery ! That should be good for about 100,000 tweets .

ISIS executes women by beheading for the first time for 'sorcery' in Syria | Daily Mail Online


http://www.brusselstimes.com/eu-affa...oups-like-isil

[paraclete]

Let's not get carried away here, what is needed is a strong attack force dealing with what is really a dispersed enemy with a small central force as I've said before a regiment or division adequately supported should do it, but the shiia militia don't have the heart for it, the Iraqi don't have the heart for it and it appears the americans who created this problem don't have the heart for it. Ramadi should have been taken long ago

[talaniman]

Australia doesn't have the heart for it either, General Clete.

[paraclete]

We are there but unlike other engagements in the past, we are not going to be sacrificed for nothing. If you go in we will be there just as our aircraft are already there. We have advisors and trainers on the ground just as you do because we have a vested interest in seeing this group defeated

You donn't like me telling you the way strategy should be framed but there is no substitute for direct confrontation and if you do that you had better have some allies who won't run away

[talaniman]

Well thanks for the help, but it's not enough to commit our troop to combat in a foreign land.

[paraclete]

Yes well I understand that you too have lost the taste for war

[paraclete]

News in the Islamic world is certainly slow or perhaps it is that because they are not killing us we have lost interest.

Couple of things just in, the Saudi have become very upset with IS

Saudi Arabia says it stopped Islamic State attacks; 400 held

Hamas have become very upset with IS since it seems IS attempted to bomb their leadership. Israel attracts some strange allies. Since Iran helps Hamas out I wonder what that means for Israel who more than ever is caught in the middle and IS affiliates are now operating in the desert south of Israel. I think I might postpone that trip to Israel for another year

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33585847

[tomder55]

Remember when the emperor called the Islamic State the "JV"team ?
Well Wednesday , FBI Director James Comey, appearing before the Aspen Security Forum was asked whether IS was now a greater threat to the U.S. than AQ.Comey said "Yes." So the JV has moved up to the Varsity team in short order under the emperor's watch . The unfortunate and tragic thing is that if the emperor had taken the advice of his General on the ground ,Gen. Ray Odierno ,the US would've left a small force in Iraq to maintain the gains of the surge ; and the Islamic State would never've taken root.

[talaniman]

I'm not buying that a small US force would have prevented the rise of ISIS Tom, but here may be a hopeful sign,

Turkey to Let U.S. Military Use Its Base to Launch Strikes Against Islamic State - WSJ

[paraclete]

Yes perhaps Turkey has finally realised the danger. We all know that unless the Muslims deal with this themselves there will be no permanent solution. The US, etc, can bomb the crap out of them but unless the ground is taken you will still be there ten years from now, just like Afghanistan

[NeedKarma]

We all know that unless the Muslims deal with this themselves there will be no permanent solution.

That is indeed what I very wish would happen but sadly we are not seeing it.

[paraclete]

No they don't appear to have a heart for a fight. They seem to do well when they can overrun in greater numbers but against a determined enemy they stall. However we don't know the terrain, the weather, etc, no doubt there are reasons. Makes you wonder how they conquered these places in the first place, perhaps there was no one there

[tomder55]

I'm not buying that a small US force would have prevented the rise of ISIS Tom, but here may be a hopeful sign,

Turkey to Let U.S. Military Use Its Base to Launch Strikes Against Islamic State - WSJ

Of course it would have . The Sunni triangle was pacified and the tribal leaders were doing the heavy lifting defeating AQ Iraq . The reason that the IS rose is because we left a vacuum there . The Maliki government needed a strong horse to help them ;and since we were no longer there ,he turned to Iran for support . The end result of that was that the Sunni areas were cut out of the political process . THAT is why IS was born.

[paraclete]

Well Tom we can all recount history but new deveopments might mean that Turkey wants an end to the conflict on its border

Turkish jets strike several Islamic State targets in Syria

Of course it may just be a ploy