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NeedKarma · Feb 27, 2014, 05:24 PM

If it was he is still making stuff up since that thread has nothing to do with his assertion that I "get indignant about seeing a decorated Christmas tree in public".
(it is a good thread though and I stand by everything I said....in 2007 :-) )

smoothy · Feb 27, 2014, 06:13 PM

Right... the Catholic Church nominated you as saint already, first one thats still alive.... right? Everyone that frequents this forum knows you are an atheist... you've bragged about it adnausium in at least hundreds of posts... but if it makes you happy to pretend otherwise... have at it...far be it for me to deny you that bit of happyiness, everyone else here knows the truth.

smearcase · Feb 27, 2014, 06:49 PM

If it was he is still making stuff up since that thread has nothing to do with his assertion that I "get indignant about seeing a decorated Christmas tree in public".
(it is a good thread though and I stand by everything I said....in 2007 :-) )

I googled "needkarma objects to Christmas tree" and that's what came up.
Similar to what Jesse on B. Bad was coached to say when Jane was found dead- "I woke up, I found her. That's all I know."

smoothy · Feb 27, 2014, 07:35 PM

smearcase... I can find dozens on a matter of minutes... on threads I've participated in alone the comments were made in, but its not worth my time... they are there and only a mod or higher can edit content so there won't be any last minute deletions... and its not important enough for me to get worked up over anyway. I've got more important things to do.

NeedKarma · Feb 27, 2014, 07:58 PM

Everyone that frequents this forum knows you are an atheist....but if it makes you happy to pretend otherwise...

When did I deny that? How do I pretend I'm not? You obviously do not have anything better to do.
BTW next Christmas we'll put up a decorated tree... just like last Christmas. I really don't know what you're rambling about.

talaniman · Feb 27, 2014, 08:48 PM

Jesus didn't have a tree. Some guy in Europe through that into the tradition in the 16th Century.

The Christmas Archives

They make it up as they go along would appear. Religious beliefs are subject to influence other than the truth. Or is it a perceived truth?

smoothy · Feb 27, 2014, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

When did I deny that? How do I pretend I'm not? You obviously do not have anything better to do.
BTW next Christmas we'll put up a decorated tree... just like last Christmas. I really don't know what you're rambling about.

If it makes you feel good to believe that... have at it.. you among a few others have a long history of posting info to that effect.

smoothy · Feb 27, 2014, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Jesus didn't have a tree. Some guy in Europe through that into the tradition in the 16th Century.

The Christmas Archives

They make it up as they go along would appear. Religious beliefs are subject to influence other than the truth. Or is it a perceived truth?

Is it up you you or me to decide these sorts of things? Nope... everyone's free to celibrate it as they wish, or not... just not to demand how others will or won't be doing it.

talaniman · Feb 27, 2014, 09:01 PM

Just an observation.

paraclete · Feb 28, 2014, 06:11 AM

If you destroy all their "religious" beliefs, rituals and traditions, they are going to be left with the aweful or is that awesome, truth, Jesus. Where do you go then? no saints to hide behind, no statues to hide behind, no one left to pray to but Jesus

Jesus didn't need all the rubbish, he didn't need buildings and he didn't need deputy dog Santa

NeedKarma · Feb 28, 2014, 06:45 AM

no one left to pray to but Jesus

Why the need to pray to anything at all?

talaniman · Feb 28, 2014, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

If you destroy all their "religious" beliefs, rituals and traditions, they are going to be left with the aweful or is that awesome, truth, Jesus. Where do you go then? no saints to hide behind, no statues to hide behind, no one left to pray to but Jesus

Jesus didn't need all the rubbish, he didn't need buildings and he didn't need deputy dog Santa

Humans need those things though.

Wondergirl · Feb 28, 2014, 09:05 AM

Regarding people's need for prayer and a church and all its trappings, here's a terrific book for you -- Rollo May's Cry for Myth. From the goodreads web site: "Rollo May, respected therapist and bestselling author of Love and Will, discusses the relationships between myths [and rituals] and the subconscious, showing how myths can provide meaning and structure for those who seek direction in a confused world. Here are case studies in which myths have helped Dr. May's patients make sense out of an often senseless world."

paraclete · Feb 28, 2014, 03:35 PM

Why the need to pray to anything at all?

Firstly; we need to get the attitude out of the way, Jesus is not a thing, an object. Secondly; there are times in the life of every person where they need the intervention of someone greater than themselves, if you haven't experienced that yet, you have been fortunate. My book; Revival ~ a different perspective will answer your question

NeedKarma · Feb 28, 2014, 05:31 PM

I have been fortunate I suspect.

smoothy · Feb 28, 2014, 05:50 PM

Remember this from the person who just a few posts back was claiming they WERE NOT an atheist...

NeedKarma · Feb 28, 2014, 05:55 PM

When was that smoothy?

smoothy · Feb 28, 2014, 06:05 PM

Go back a few posts. Those are not comments made by a person that has any religious faith.

If you are you are..if you aren't you aren't....whichever it may be...embrace it. Nobody here is trying to "save you" or convert you.

NeedKarma · Feb 28, 2014, 06:09 PM

Once again I don't understand your lack of capacity to directly answer a question.

smoothy · Feb 28, 2014, 07:41 PM

I learned that from you. You should be proud.