[talaniman]

Interpreting poll numbers is not you sides strong suit, we know that. But I predict small businesses will love the exchange. At least in the states who have been putting the efforts into making them work for their constituents, and not setting up road blocks for the essential job of navigating their citizens through it.

[talaniman]

I'd like to think there could be a reasonable compromise.

A clean bill to fund the government for 60 days for now and we keep arguing our points and see what else we could come up with. Reasonable enough for now??

[smoothy]

How about the Democrats stop being obstructionists and let the bill go through AS-IS, exactly who died and appointed them rulers of the universe anyway.

[speechlesstx]

Interpreting poll numbers is not you sides strong suit, we know that. But I predict small businesses will love the exchange. At least in the states who have been putting the efforts into making them work for their constituents, and not setting up road blocks for the essential job of navigating their citizens thru it.

I love this thread, the examples just keep rolling in.

[speechlesstx]

Mimi is still in denial. Even if the website doesn't work in December she sees no reason to delay Obamacare...

At a Thursday afternoon press conference, House minority leader Nancy Pelosi was asked by THE WEEKLY STANDARD if Obamacare should be delayed in whole or in part if healthcare.gov still isn't working in November or December.

"No, no," Pelosi replied. "It has nothing to do with the programatic part. It's about technology."

But some experts have warned that if the technology isn't working weeks or months from now, Obamacare's federal insurance exchange could be thrown into a "death spiral." To function, the exchange needs enough young and healthy people to sign up, and if the healthcare.gov website isn't working, the people most likely to take the additional time and effort to sign up will be old and sick.

On Thursday, Pelosi dismissed concerns about the continued failure of healthcare.gov causing a health insurance "death spiral," saying, "No, no, I don't think so."

It isn't entirely clear how long the administration has to fix the website without causing serious problems. "For now, the failure [of healthcare.gov] has mostly been a PR nightmare for the administration. But it has the potential to cascade into a crisis for real people if challenges continue too long," Politico reported Wednesday. "Some industry officials point to Nov. 1 as a potential test for the system. That’s the day when the federal exchange is due to transfer thousands of Medicaid applications to state agencies."

House speaker John Boehner has cited the website's failure as a reason to delay the individual mandate. Under Obamacare, Americans who don't have health insurance will be fined or 1 percent of their income, whichever is higher, if they don't purchase it by February 15.

As Bonehead asked...

“How can we tax people for not buying a product from a website that doesn't work?”.

A reasonable question. Considering they're at maybe 20 percent of their target for October, it's an even better question.

[tomder55]

Richard Fernandez observes that the Emperor instead of being forward thinking is in fact leading a course to 'back to the future'.

The relations of power in the world are constantly changing. Good managers know this and are always looking for a wave to catch and ebbs to avoid. Timing in statecraft is very important, but it is something the president seems to lack. What has kept Obama from catastrophe is the unexpected success of everything he discounts, from the tactical skill of the US military to the resilience of all sectors he considers back numbers. He proceeds instead from a kind of fixed idea.

President Obama's policies have from the beginning been dogged by a curious kind of obsolescence, as if he were planning the future on the basis of trends which were new fifty years ago. He held up Spain as the model for Green Jobs at a time when that country was already beginning to collapse. He pushed Obamacare with the fervor of a 1950s socialist even as the welfare state model of the EU teetered from demographic rot, held up only by the printing presses of the Federal Reserve.

He became enamored of Muslim Brotherhood only to discover that the populations of the Middle East had passed them by. His Secretary of State, John Kerry, is even now trying to solve the puzzle of peace in the Middle East by brokering an irrelevant agreement between Palestine and Israel, as if the world were back in 1947. And now, after finding the Saudis have left his wagon train, almost while he wasn't looking, the president has hitched his wagon to Teheran a decade late and a trillion dollars short.

He's right on schedule to implement Obamacare in about 3 years time, when the website finally comes online, just in time to realize the government can't afford it, and neither can its members. He seems to live, not in time nor even in eternity, but in the stagnant pool he imagines is timeless. Perhaps in ten years president Obama's mind will arrive at the present day and belatedly rediscover the possibilities of his own country, which he had written already off as being in terminal decline. Until then it's Back Full and Back Emergency.

Obama sold himself to the voters as the candidate of the future. His real talent however, apparently lies in missing every opportunity that history presents. It has been said that “generals always fight the last war, especially if they have won it”. With Obama it's different. He always fights the last war and can't even remember who won it, except to remain confirmed in his conviction that the future is some other country's past.

Belmont Club » Lagged
He concentrates on the emperor's bungling of foreign policy... but also uses domestic energy and Obamacare as examples of backward thinking by the emperor.. who still believes he's ahead of the curve.

[talaniman]

More conservative website opinions?

[tomder55]

The source is irrelevant. What part of the op-ed do you disagree with ?

[excon]

Hello tom:

He became enamored of Muslim Brotherhood

It's CRAP. Pure CRAP. I didn't have to read very far in this screed to find CRAP.

excon

[tomder55]

Oh so you think he isn't enamored with the Muslim Brotherhood ? Why is it that he was willing to supply Egypt with military hardware when the Brotherhood was ruling ,but is now planning on suspending aid now that the military lead a revolt against the Brotherhood.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Why is it that he was willing to supply Egypt with military hardware when the Brotherhood was ruling

Enamored IS birther crap.. I never thought I'd have to explain foreign policy to you...

He's doing it for TWO reasons... (1) The military is the ONLY counter force TO the Muslim Brotherhood, as has been born out by recent events, and (2) Egypt IS an ally that we PROMISED to support when they signed the peace treaty with Israel.

We DO want them to adhere to the treaty, don't we?

excon

[paraclete]

We DO want them to adhere to the treaty, don't we?

excon

Why, are they militarily strong. Only now that the brotherhood has been removed are they honouring their obligations

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:
Enamored IS birther crap.. I never thought I'd have to explain foreign policy to you...

He's doing it for TWO reasons... (1) The military is the ONLY counter force TO the Muslim Brotherhood, as has been born out by recent events, and (2) Egypt IS an ally that we PROMISED to support when they signed the peace treaty with Israel.

We DO want them to adhere to the treaty, don't we?

excon

So again... why is he considering suspending aid to Egypt ? And why was he willing to send aid to Egypt when the Brotherhood was in charge ? I think he's got it backwards. Nahh enamored is not birtherism.. not even close .One of his 1st moves as the President was to go to Cairo and stir up popular revolt .

[tomder55]

Why, are they militarily strong. Only now that the brotherhood has been removed are they honouring their obligations

You have it backwards too.

[talaniman]

Vote for Glenn Beck then. Or any of the Fox News failures.

[speechlesstx]

Juan Williams, bless his soul, blamed the healthcare.gov disaster on GOP opposition to Obamacare. Only in liberal la la land can the embarrassingly ridiculous failure of the launch of a massive overhaul passed with no Republican support and executed and managed by a Democratic administration be the fault of Republicans. GOP pressure was so great they had to roll out an untested site and lie about it's awesomeness.

[NeedKarma]

Vote for Glenn Beck then.

He is a republican messiah.

[speechlesstx]

He is a republican messiah.

Unlike Dems we don't elevate people to Messiah status.

[talaniman]

He is a republican messiah.

So is Obama, the wingers here have called him that repeatedly. We call Beck a right wing loony in contrast.

[speechlesstx]

So is Obama, the wingers here have called him that repeatedly. We call Beck a right wing loony in contrast.

That was a perfect post for this thread, a perfect example of aversion to reality.When you show us all the examples of any conservative elevating Beck, a Libertarian I believe by the way, to a god-like status we can talk. Otherwise, the examples of lefties singing the praises of The One will never be forgotten.

"We have an amazing story to tell," she said. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."

-- Michelle Obama

"Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus."

-- Politiken (Danish newspaper)

"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."

--Lawrence Carter

"Many even see in Obama a messiah-like figure, a great soul, and some affectionately call him Mahatma Obama."

-- Dinesh Sharma

"We just like to say his name. We are considering taking it as a mantra."

-- Chicago] Sun-Times

"A Lightworker -- An Attuned Being with Powerful Luminosity and High-Vibration Integrity who will actually help usher in a New Way of Being"

-- Mark Morford

"He communicates God-like energy..."

-- Steve Davis (Charleston, SC)

"I'll do whatever he says to do. I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear."

-- Halle Berry

"A quantum leap in American consciousness"

-- Deepak Chopra

"He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians. . . . the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century."

-- Gary Hart

"Barack Obama is our collective representation of our purest hopes, our highest visions and our deepest knowings . . . He's our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence."

-- Eve Konstantine

"This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament." | "I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."

-- Chris Matthews

"We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."

-- Oprah Winfrey