[paraclete]

So where has the other fellow been, he is almost invisable

[TUT317]

"Let me add to the mythical Democrat wars to create a siege mentality.. the war on Sesame Street..."

Hi Steve,

While you are with me on this one perhaps we could also point of the siege mentality created by the other side of politics as well.


Tut

[tomder55]

He's been on the campaign trail . I can't help it if the compliant press only puts him in the news if they can take a shot at him ,or marginalize him with trivia about his workouts.

Paul Ryan: All Pumped Up For His Closeup - LightBox

[NeedKarma]

We can always turn to Fox News for hard hitting, unbiased news:
Search for paul ryan

[TUT317]

Hi NK,

You means those on the other side of politics responsible for creating their version of the siege mentality?

Tut

[NeedKarma]

Normally I'd answer "yes", but in the case of my post it shows that Ryan has been hiding as well, probably working on his highly-touted abs as we learn from Fox.

[speechlesstx]

Tut, I don't deny it on both sides. I believe I said something to the effect that the other side's 'wars', as in the "war on women" are mythical and intentionally deceptive, while he attack on the first amendment is real.

[talaniman]

Tut, I don't deny it on both sides. I believe I said something to the effect that the other side's 'wars', as in the "war on women" are mythical and intentionally deceptive, while he attack on the first amendment is real.

So the right wings ultra sound laws, personhood amendments, defining rape, taking away choices is NOT an attack on women? You mean defunding planned parenthood, including cancer screens to stop the 3% that goes to abortions isn't an attack on women? Then what is it?

[speechlesstx]

So the right wings ultra sound laws, personhood amendments, defining rape, taking away choices is NOT an attack on women?

We've more than exhausted that discussion. The only one involved in this campaign with extreme views is the guy that refused to support a law protecting babies born alive after botched abortions.

You mean defunding planned parenthood, including cancer screens to stop the 3% that goes to abortions isn't an attack on women? Then what is it?

I would never give PP a penny, that's the most vile, disgusting, deceptive, underhanded, subversive organization in this country in my opinion. Besides, I thought that's what Obamacare was for.

[tomder55]

PP... "eugenics are us"

[NeedKarma]

PP... "eugenics are us"

I know, you guys are just like China.

[speechlesstx]

PP... "eugenics are us"

Only one dude in this race wouldn't support a ban on killing baby girls that survived an abortion. Obama's to the left of NARAL on that.

[tomder55]

I know, you guys are just like China.

No ; Margaret Sanger ,the patron Saint of the left 'reproductive rights ' movement was an unrepentant racist eugenicist .

[excon]

Hello tom:

I don't know.. You like Ayn Rand... She was an atheist.. Can't atheist's write good stuff?

excon

[tomder55]

I don't see the connection . Sanger set up an organization where her dream of culling the black population could be realized . Rand's vision of Objectivism is ultimately an atheist philosophy that's true . But beyond the philosophising ,she did not set up an institution to implement her phiolosphy . Yes it's true that I could never completely embrace Objectivism ,but I completely repudiate Sanger and her master race ideas. (have you seen the photos of her with Hitler ? )
Here is the big difference . Rand believed in the worth of the individual .Sanger ? She thought culling the herd was good for the collective.

[paraclete]

Sanger ? She thought culling the herd was good for the collective.

I really don't see those views as different to the republican philosophy of letting the poor look after themselves

[NeedKarma]

I really don't see those views as different to the republican philosophy of letting the poor look after themselves

Haha, I never looked at it that way but it's true!

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

So, it DOESN'T matter who they are... All that matters is that you BELIEVE them... If it was me, I wouldn't be throwing stones.

excon

[tomder55]

I really don't see those views as different to the republican philosophy of letting the poor look after themselves

That would be true if the Republic phiolosophy was 'letting the poor look after themselves '. But that of course would not be the Republic philosophy ,or mine.

[talaniman]

Biden just took Ryan to school about fighting for people or fighting for profits and ideology.