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paraclete · Mar 16, 2015, 06:29 PM

So can I just get this straight, toy guns are treated as real these days

cdad · Mar 16, 2015, 06:51 PM

You tell me what you think. If the orange tip is missing or painted over it looks real to me.

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paraclete · Mar 16, 2015, 08:51 PM

I guess there is a replica for everything but those are not toys

talaniman · Mar 17, 2015, 07:21 AM

It's a fact that children, or the mentally challenged, don't always respond appropriately to harsh command or when scared or surprised. The police having a shoot first ask questions later mentality is a lousy response at best and one of fear and not professionalism, and is the leading cause of these avoidable tragedies.

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paraclete · Mar 17, 2015, 01:46 PM

Screwdriver, knife, does it matter? Such things can be offensive weapons but cops have ways of subdueing people that don't involve shooting they just don't choose to use them because there is still a risk. Don't know how it goes over there but cops have killed a number of suspects with tasers here in similar circumstances. The mentality may be more than ask questions later it maybe I'm the authority around here and you do what I say or you're dead

talaniman · Mar 17, 2015, 01:53 PM

Did I mention 4 cops with NIGHTSTICKS, and tasers??

paraclete · Mar 17, 2015, 02:06 PM

Yes well maybe your cops have more fun than ours, I haven't seen a baton in years, non lethal methods seem to have gone out of vogue even though they are much talked about

talaniman · Mar 17, 2015, 02:08 PM

Most of our cops are not bad, its just some that make deadly, tragic mistakes.

paraclete · Mar 17, 2015, 02:41 PM

Ditto, I'm unsure that ours actually make mistakes, I think their training directs them to take certain steps and with an unresponsive paniced suspect it leads to tradegy. High speed chases are a case in point

paraclete · Apr 8, 2015, 05:11 PM

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There can be no excuse for this action, even if the "suspect" was fleeing this is no reason to execute him and I use the word execute in context for this was an execution killing. Actions like this call for a whole new approach to policing, perhaps police should be relieved of their firearms so they can get in touch with the community again

cdad · Apr 8, 2015, 07:09 PM

I dont see the whole story in the video. It is hard to tell what is really going on for that situation. All you see is a reaction and someone being shot. From the way the story reads there was alot more to it.

tomder55 · Apr 8, 2015, 07:10 PM

The cop was fired and arrested . He will be tried and found guilty of murder .

talaniman · Apr 8, 2015, 07:22 PM

Good thing a citizen caught the whole thing on camera. They had already started lying and sweeping it under the rug. Been hard to hide those bullet wounds to the back though.

tomder55 · Apr 8, 2015, 07:35 PM

There was no ambiguity . The cop used unnecessary and excessive force. Then he tried to plant false evidence to justify the murder. Who is the "they " who tried to sweep it under the rug ? I'll answer the question for you . It was officer Michael Thomas Slager who was trying to create a narrative where the shooting was justified . Multiple shots in the back would've completely discredited his narrative with or without the video.

paraclete · Apr 8, 2015, 08:03 PM

It seems clear there is a policy of shoot first, yes this was excessive but a better term is unmitigated murder, what if he did run away, they had his car, they would know his identity, this is just mindless violence. I suggest he ran because he knew he was going to be killed This is gun culture at its worst

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-0...spects/6379472

tomder55 · Apr 9, 2015, 05:00 AM

you can make that speculation if you want to . Or you can listen to his parents and why they think he ran..... because he owed back child support ;because he had been arrested multiple times ,including one for assault and battery.....or maybe he did not want to get tasered .
This is all pretty irrelevent to the incident . The fact is that Slager was in no danger and had no real reason to gun him down.

tomder55 · Apr 9, 2015, 05:25 AM

Ezell Ford, investigation ongoing .

Akai Gurley ,office Peter Liang charged with manslaughter

Tamir Rice . Both officers involved put on administrate leave .An independent investigation by the Cuyahoga County Sheriff's Department is ongoing . Results will be handed to a Grand Jury

John Crawford . A Grand Jury decided to not charge the officers involved . The Justice Dept is doing it's own investigation.

Tony Terrell Robinson ;the shooting was justified .

Anthony Hill ,Georgia Bureau of Investigation investigation ongoing .

paraclete · Apr 9, 2015, 02:50 PM

What does that prove, that there is a process or that more often than not there is a problem?

cdad · Apr 9, 2015, 02:50 PM

Maybe in order to understand things other sources need to be looked at.

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paraclete · Apr 9, 2015, 03:10 PM

Yes but that doesn't offer much more than say there is disadvantage. Stop making excuses and understand that a whole different approach is needed. How many incidents are where there is a lone police officer? How many incidents are where there is a behavorial element such as non compliance with police directions. Could it be police methods are too heavy handed? Is there an assumption that a population will behave in a particular manner and why? Need I go on?