[speechlesstx]

Wow, someone liked that stupid Carrey video? Posted on a site called "Funny or DIE" no less. Anyway...

Juan Williams brings up a good point:

"The Justice Department reports that between 1980 and 2008, "blacks were six times more likely than whites to be homicide victims and seven times more likely than whites to commit homicide."
...

Almost 50 years ago, when the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed, the national out-of-wedlock birthrate was 7%. Today it is over 40%. According to the CDC, the out-of-wedlock birthrate for white children was just 2% in the 1960s. Today it is 30%. Among black children, the out-of-wedlock birthrate has skyrocketed from 20% in the 1960s to a heartbreaking 72% today. The Hispanic out-of-wedlock rate, which has been measured for a much shorter period, was below 40% in 1990 and stands at more than 50% as of the 2010 census.

Well, you know family values are so yesterday and who needs a dad anyway?

Come on guys, gun control is not the answer.

[paraclete]

Wow, someone liked that stupid Carrey video? Posted on a site called "Funny or DIE" no less. Anyway...

Well, you know family values are so yesterday and who needs a dad anyway?

Come on guys, gun control is not the answer.

That depends upon what question you are asking? Obviously existing measures aren't adequate to stop massacres

[speechlesstx]

That depends upon what question you are asking? obviously existing measures arn't adequate to stop massacres

Kids need a mom and a dad.

[Wondergirl]

Kids need a mom and a dad.

Kids need two loving adults in their lives. Heterosexuals have done a nasty number on marriage (cheating, divorce, broken families, living together and producing children, etc.), so maybe there is another way to stabilize families.

[paraclete]

Kids need a mom and a dad.

Well for once we are in agreement, the attempts of the homosexuals, let's call them what they are and avoid being PC, to subvert everything to their warped view of life have thus far failed.

The society we have is in a mess because we have listened to the namby, pamby views of a minority, in fact more than one minority and tried to accommodate them because they feel "hurt". Well tough, "life", as a famous right wing politician in my part of the world said; "isn't meant to be easy"

If someone discriminates against you it is tough, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger

[talaniman]

They seek inclusion as first class citizens, and the youth are not as weirded out by the centuries of dogma, tradition, and discriminations which has made gay people stronger as they seek equal protection under the law, and reject the separate but equal closet they have been forced to live in.

Bigotry, and the laws that promote that bigotry have no place in the American society.

[Wondergirl]

their warped view of life

Apparently none in your family have dared come out of the closet.

[paraclete]

Apparently none in your family have dared come out of the closet.

Homosexuals are a very small percentage of the population and seem to gravitate to their havens in large cities, those that don't maintain a low profile, which means they live in peace but without us having to argue their issues too frequently. Even our athiestic Prime Minister doesn't agree with homosexual "marriage". We hope you will "legalise" Homosexual "marriage" then they will migrate as most of them did from New Zealand when they became unpopular there

As to my family they live in hetrosexual relationships and I haven't seen any signs of them playing for the other side

[Wondergirl]

as to my family they live in hetrosexual relationships and I haven't seen any signs of them playing for the other side

Since it's biology and a done deal at birth, at least we know they didn't choose to be this way. Many families I am friends with have a son or daughter or niece or nephew or uncle or aunt or cousin who is gay. My sil last year married her partner of 30+ years, and my mid-20s niece recently told us she is a lesbian. You can run, but you can't hide!

[cdad]

They seek inclusion as first class citizens, and the youth are not as weirded out by the centuries of dogma, tradition, and discriminations which has made gay people stronger as they seek equal protection under the law, and reject the separate but equal closet they have been forced to live in.

Ideological programming by our school system does not show a real change in attitude. Why do you think that the word "gay" has such a bad meaning amongst the youth ? If it were so accepted and embraced it wouldn't be a pejorative.

[paraclete]

Since it's biology and a done deal at birth, at least we know they didn't choose to be this way. Many families I am friends with have a son or daughter or niece or nephew or uncle or aunt or cousin who is gay. My sil last year married her partner of 30+ years, and my mid-20s niece recently told us she is a lesbian. You can run, but you can't hide!

From statistics available it is apparent that a far greater percentage of the US population identify as homosexual than do the population of my nation. Short of speculation, I don't know any homosexuals and am unaware of any in my family. It is possible that the child of a one time siI might be living in such a relationship but that is hearsay. I have come across very few individuals who might have been homosexual in my lifetime and I don't frequent places where they might be found. You may find this strange

[Wondergirl]

I have come across very few individuals who might have been homosexual in my lifetime and I don't frequent places where they might be found. You may find this strange

Must be something in our water...

I'm guessing they are all around you.

[talaniman]

Get past the ideology ,which has been taught a lot longer than the public school and we have people.

From statistics available it is apparent that a far greater percentage of the US population identify as homosexual than do the population of my nation. Short of speculation, I don't know any homosexuals and am unaware of any in my family. It is possible that the child of a one time siI might be living in such a relationship but that is hearsay. I have come across very few individuals who might have been homosexual in my lifetime and I don't frequent places where they might be found. You may find this strange

Just because they haven't made themselves public as yet doesn't mean they don't exist.

[paraclete]

Must be something in our water....

I'm guessing they are all around you.

I think it is the air

Well then, I had better get a gun, do they come out at night? I wondered what has been scampering across my roof. I would say the representation of guns in our society exceeds the representation of homosexuals and as an interesting corrolation, you have both more guns and more homosexuals, must be something about that macho attitude

[Wondergirl]

must be something about that macho attitude

Speaking of macho attitudes, there weren't any homosexuals in India either until recently when the world environment got more accepting.

[paraclete]

This isn't a question of acceptance, it is a question of reality. I can't say why you have more than we do, I haven't heard of a homo bashing in years here and as I say they tend to gravitate to the city. Can't deny there are places where they represent a high proportion of the population but not where I live

You know they haven't made it compulsory here yet

[speechlesstx]

Kids need two loving adults in their lives. Heterosexuals have done a nasty number on marriage (cheating, divorce, broken families, living together and producing children, etc.), so maybe there is another way to stabilize families.

No, the research is clear, kids fare better with a mom and dad.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

No, the research is clear, kids fare better with a mom and dad.

How CLEAR can it be when I can find research that contradicts it? You show me YOUR links, and I'll show you mine.

But, BEYOND this... If DOMA goes down, and it's Going to, do you think the gay agenda has won, and there'll be JILLIONS of brand new homosexuals coming down the pike?

You DO, don't you, because you believe homosexuality is a CHOICE, even though YOU didn't choose ANYTHING... Uhhh, doesn't common sense EVER trump religious dogma??

Over to you, wingers?

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

How CLEAR can it be when I can find research that contradicts it? You show me YOUR links, and I'll show you mine.

But, BEYOND this.... If DOMA goes down, and it's GONNA, do you think the gay agenda has won, and there'll be JILLIONS of brand new homosexuals coming down the pike??

You DO, don't you, because you believe homosexuality is a CHOICE, even though YOU didn't choose ANYTHING... Uhhh, doesn't common sense EVER trump religious dogma???

Over to you, wingers?

excon

Anyone can find research that contradicts research, but when you get me 30 years of studying children with two moms that isn't geared toward influencing LBGT public policy I'm ready.

[Wondergirl]

children with two moms that isn't geared toward influencing LBGT public policy I'm ready.

Anecdotal evidence from me that includes a lesbian sil's adoption of a male baby is that gays as parents has no influence on the children's sexual orientation. You are born gay or straight and don't veer from either course.